S Carolina Rep Proposes Death Penalty for Women Who Have Abortions

This is an odd assumption. To the rest of your post, I'm not here to argue whether or not the proposed legislation is strong, weak, valid, or whatever. I'm doing my small part to placate the mob, esp. those who insulted another poster for having an opinion they couldn't come to grips with.

 

Yeah. I think a lot of people on the more sane side of republicans are in denial about this. Survey after survey shows majorities support trump, think the election was rigged. A non trivial minority - maybe 10%, buy into at least some tenants of Q anon. These people think Fox is too mainstream.

I have this conversation with my wife. Overall we are roughly in the same ball park politically but she just wants to ignore this stuff but thinks cancel culture, wokeness etc is a bigger threat.

 

To be clear, i find this rationale to be insane and they will ruin any honest hope that reasonable pro-life proponents have.

I loathe the concept and find the idea to be evil.

I hope everyone of them is job hunting soon.

 

Sad indeed, but i dont see a growing movement for this type of thing. I think politically this is suicide.

 

The title isnt 100% accurate, but the more chilling fact is the truth behind it.

Glad I dont live in a state that would do this, and Im pretty far right on the subject as everyone knows.

These people are likely (falsely) claiming to do Gods work, when Jesus himself stopped capital executions and condemned the accusers.

These guys probably have no stones to throw themselves.

 

I knew you didn't want to be misleading.

 

My hope is this is the last gasp of the idiot wing of the Republican Party, the anti science, anti woman, anti worker wing. The other possibility is they take power and eliminate elections. They tried to do this on January 6th. I just hope that the useful idiots wake up.

 

10 percent of pubs would be about 4 percent of the nation. 4 percent doesn’t seem to outlandish to me.

 

6 pages, so maybe it’s ok to bring up the leader of the Republican Party who said…

 

That’s the issue. I have seen no material pushback within the actual party. For the most part politicians have embraced it. I suspect for the most part Desantis is probably a normal conservative Republican (with a bit of an ego complex) but he has decided it is in his interest to feed and stoke the extremes of his party vs push against it. The only hope I see is that party so marginalizes itself within the rest of the electorate that they keep losing elections to the point it hurts enough that it makes a difference.

 

They are already over represented due to gerrymandering. Yes, both parties engage in gerrymandering, but the gop excels at it.

 

There is definitely gerrymandering but there is also the issue of geographic/demographic concentration. Democrats tend to be more concentrated in urban areas, such that any sort of rational looking boundaries are going favor suburban and rural republicans.

Let’s say you have 3 districts with equal population. 2 that are 60/40 Republican and one that is 80/20 democrat. Democrats have a majority - 160 out of 300, but only 1 out of 3 districts. That can happen with even normal looking districts. One would have to gerrymander the other way for that not to happen.

 

An interesting result from the last election: I think you are starting to see Republicans concentrating more. If Republicans had pulled their popular vote totals in 2018 the way they did in 2022, they would have a large advantage. They no longer do. Some of it is gerrymandering, but I think Republicans are starting to concentrate heavily.

 

I think @gatordavisl and others are pointing to the rather sensationalized title stating the state rep is “Proposing Death”. That is an exaggeration because there is a difference between Proposing and Possibility of. It is up to a reader to decide how large that difference is.

 

pro·pose
/prəˈpōz/

verb
gerund or present participle: proposing
1.
put forward (an idea or plan) for consideration or discussion by others.
"he proposed a new nine-point peace plan"

 

I’m say The 10% of pubs - quite a bit higher than that.

 

Yes everybody is concentrating. People are deliberately moving to places with similar political and cultural views. The Big Sort.

 

I don't know if its people moving in a lot of cases (like who's been moving to Iowa in the last 14 years?), more like cultural affinities sorting things out, particularly in rural areas and in the suburbs of the suburbs.

 

To the extent it is moving, like in Iowa it could also be moving out. An older conservative probably won’t leave but younger people who are more liberal are more likely to leave for job prospects.

 

That's likely true, but it seems like moving from rural Iowa to like NYC or Chicago after college or HS isnt necessarily just about politics (most people dont have fully coherent politics at that point). Moving to the city from your small town is something people have done for a very long time in this country. I do think to a certain extent its more about the environment shaping people vs. people moving and shaping the environment. In places like Maine or Mass you can probably find rednecky or WWC types that are pretty solid Democrats. Just like as Florida has gotten more red, Miami/Dade has gotten more Republican. As politics becomes more about regional/cultural ID, that will probably have an effect.