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Silicon Valley Bank

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Mar 10, 2023.

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  1. Mar 12, 2023 #101
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    The "SVB Failure for Dummies" has been released...

    Ron DeSantis blames Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse on DEI
     
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  2. Mar 12, 2023 #102
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    That's why it's best to keep your money under the mattress
     
  3. Mar 12, 2023 #103
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  4. Mar 12, 2023 #104
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    New York State Regulators just seized Signature Bank according to Twitter.
     
  5. Mar 12, 2023 #105
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    The SVB situation had nothing to do with wokeness. That's just stupid.

    Banks and other institutions are going to have to start figuring in, "social media panic" to their disaster scenarios where viral predictions of doom become self fulfilling.
     
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  6. Mar 12, 2023 #106
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    Signature was a bank that catered to crypto companies
    . I get that you can’t pick winners and losers at this point, but the fact that we have to bail out the idiocy that has been crypto investing over the past 7 or 8 years is infuriating.
     
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  7. Mar 12, 2023 #107
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    I don’t think you can model for that, because once it starts it’s total. The one suggestion I heard that makes sense today was forcing banks to mark their securities to market. Essentially you can account for a security as one held for investment, which means you can count all of the expected returns as an asset. But holding it for sale (m2m) means you have to price it to today’s market conditions. Bond values went down 20 percent or more and SVB had everything for priced investment…people started to see the delta if there were a run, and it became a self fulfilling prophecy.
     
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  8. Mar 12, 2023 #108
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    Signature Bank was pretty big. What’s next?
     
  9. Mar 12, 2023 #109
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  10. Mar 12, 2023 #110
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    How long is that feasible? Hope it works.
     
  11. Mar 12, 2023 #111
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    If DeSantis' horrific lack of understanding the banking system and finance is not exposed, and he is not destroyed for his stupidity, nothing is going to slow this idiot down (in before the DeSantis Goon Squads are sent to hunt people posting mean things about him!!).
     
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  12. Mar 12, 2023 #112
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    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/12/regulators-close-new-yorks-signature-bank-citing-systemic-risk.html
     
  13. Mar 12, 2023 #113
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    Thanks for your posts and replies @RealGatorFan. I am the furthest thing from an expert here, but I do a LOT of research on things and work with both a financial advisor and tax accountants (father-in-law and wife) to try to understand the nuances of trying to protect our money.
     
  14. Mar 12, 2023 #114
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    Well, it appears it no longer matters. As long as the regulator steps in swiftly, the federal deposit insurance is now uncapped for all.
     
  15. Mar 12, 2023 #115
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    Currently $650B in unrealized losses in the major banks due to banks holding bonds.
     
  16. Mar 12, 2023 #116
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    I haven't really followed this story. I just want to know what the count is on right wingers blaming this on "woke" banks
     
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  17. Mar 12, 2023 #117
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    DeSantis is #1, and he apparently understands less about banking than I do.
     
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  18. Mar 12, 2023 #118
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    First republic got money from JPMC and the fed.
    That might move the next domino far enough away that that the next one won’t fall.
    We will see tomorrow.
     
  19. Mar 12, 2023 #119
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    Yikes. What a shit show.
     
  20. Mar 12, 2023 #120
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    Mismanaging interest rate risk is now "woke:":rolleyes:o_O

    Seems like either management was clueless or simply lied about their interest rate risk exposure . I thought this kind of mismanagement went out with the S&L collapses, guess not.

    I'd say the CEO needs a good lawyer also given his stock transactions.
     
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