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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. uftaipan

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    Nonsense. I just told you what the Pope meant. He is condemning China and India for enabling the Russian war of conquest. Unless you have more information, there is no other reasonable interpretation.
     
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  2. oragator1

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    Didn’t he kinda blame the west when the war started? So not sure he’s only talking about the Russia side of the equation. Not that it matters a whole lot regardless.
     
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  5. Gatorhead

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    Now THAT is a dangerous game, unless one wishes to fall off a balcony from 10 stories.
     
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  6. uftaipan

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    Well, then as I said above he needs to be more clear. When you’re vague about other parties sharing fault, then I get to decide who those other parties are. If you are correct in your interpretation, then the Pope would be arguing that the slaver shares blame for his violent repression with those who encouraged the slave to resist. And if that is the Pope’s position, then, yes, he should be too embarrassed to state it clearly.
     
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    Yeah, I mean if you get only China and India out of that, wow. And I love the USA, but there was a shot across the bow there in that statement for sure.
     
  9. okeechobee

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    I don’t think it’s that simple. And I do sympathize with the West, but it’s not that black and white.
     
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  10. oragator1

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  11. duggers_dad

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    SMH at
    The echo chamber needs an adjustment. A few weeks ago somebody posted a video of the kid who goes around interviewing Russians on various topics.

    This particular video showed a goodly percentage of interviewees openly signaling their disapproval of the war.

    I’m guessing they were all later rounded up and sent to the salt mines.
     
  12. okeechobee

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    Sure, but it’s not like we don’t have any exposure here.
     
  13. oragator1

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    We recognized their independence almost immediately.
    Declaration of Independence of Ukraine - Wikipedia
     
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  14. ajoseph

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    Your source, presumably Gateway, is wrong. Ukraine was recognized by the US onDecember 25, 1991.

    Ukraine - Countries - Office of the Historian
     
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  15. duggers_dad

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    Too bad the US doesn’t have a say in this. And to stave off the likely rejoinder, consider that the US has raised might makes right to an art form.
     
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  17. uftaipan

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    It never is. From the slaver’s perspective, he is being stolen from as surely as if money has been taken from his wallet or as if a group of people moved into his home uninvited and without his consent. That makes the people who encourage the slave to revolt (and the slave himself) thieves in a very real sense to the slaver. And while I do understand the slaver’s sense of loss, there’s only so much empathy I’m willing to expend and only so much I’m willing to discuss compensation in the interest of peace. And after the slaver has resorted to violence, right in front of me, even that limited amount of understanding is off the table. I just, you know, am interested in seeing that slaver get a good ass kicking, whether two wrongs strictly add up to a right or not in the view of an aging Pope.
     
  18. Gatorhead

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    Someone should make a "short" You Tube video of top Russian officials being "escorted" to the 10th floor of the KGB building.
    (or whatever they call themselves now)


    KGB - Comrade / Herr Direcktor Putin asked we escort you to the "LEAP" building for a briefing.

    Oligarch: Please comrade please, not the "LEAP" building. Can't we just do this the old way? Folding chair, dark room, 22 to back of head?

    Nyet comrade, Vladimir is signaling to West that Oligarchs "fly" at his command! He takes funny videos of subordinates "flying" to his command!! Great entertainment in Dacha, comrade Putin is currently dating dominatrix, she LOVESSSS watching Oligarchs "Flying Videos".

    Oligarch: Well, that ain't good...................
     
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  20. Gatorhead

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    So why can't we empty our prisons, hand them kit and an old black powder musket from the war of 1812 and tell them..........WIN Ur Freedom in Ukraine.

    I mean ole Vlad has a point...................we could mobilize two million + for the duty! Solves MANY problems!!!! Think of the savings!!