Florida Republicans have officially filed for a 6 week abortion ban.

As you are so fond of saying, he does have a choice. He can keep his Willie in his pants. Abstinence is nearly 100 percent effective as birth control. By having sex he agrees that if she gets pregnant and decides to keep it, he will financially support it to adulthood.

 

I really really despise this intersection of Neanderthal Republicans and so-called Christians., which is mostly synonymous these days.

These are the least actual “pro-life” people out there. They don’t give a shit about life as a whole, they care about social control and regulating their religious beliefs on others.

 

The last part is a complete pile of crap. Show me data that Christians are the ones making fostering hell or abusing the kids.

You literally proved my point.

My sister adopted two BLACK boys. fostered them then adopted...both school aged, not babies. Two separate friends have adopted 3 more AA children.That part is nonsense too. Just made up.

And yes its usually babies. Thats what we are discussing isnt it?

You literally just proved my point lol.

And Bill gates is not out performing World Vision and Compassion international. (Unless you are talking about mosquito nets).

So my data was correct and not misleading. (A reminder... I spent 6 years working with one of the organizations mentioned.world Vision Intl...and the last 7 working for Habitat) My data is correct.

 

You keep saying that same tired lie, and Ill keep showing you the data that says you're wrong. You're the one with the neanderthal thinking if you think Christians arent leading the charge for whole life care. Just stay ignorant about the matter if you wish... Its a bad look, but you do you.

Your insults are noted though. But I know you guys think you are entitled to use them.

 

Lol. I've never heard a couple announce they are having a zygote, or hey everyone come see the ultrasound pics of my fetus!

Everyone calls it a baby. Stop acting like its just one group.

It's the term society has always used and your just mad that we wont stop when 8t fits your narrative.

 

Please note that in Florida the 11 year old argument is dead if there is a rape exception in the law...

Florida law: Under Florida law, a child under 16 years of age cannot consent to sexual activity, regardless of the age of the defendant.

The 11 year old is alread covered under a rape excption.

I would also say she would be covered under a health risk exception too. Its very dangerous for a child that young.

 

In fairness RIP isnt one of "those guys".

 

*Crickets*

 

So if the age of consent is 16, does that mean all abortions under 16 are allowed?

 

Bill gates isn’t performing it he is just financing it. Foster care in Georgia you had to have a letter from your minister to get a kid. This is 20 years ago and just one state but it still feels right. Christians and atheists are all typically good people. No evil people pretend to be atheists for cover.

 

I apologized to him in another thread. He didn’t accept it or he didn’t see it.
No worries.

 

I’m using the example because currently there are other places in this world where that is accepted.
We moved on form that 100 years ago.
Your the one you tried to use the “moral code” excuse to justify the minority controlling the majority not me.
Once again this isn’t just about a woman’s ability to chose what happens to their just their body.

 

Because it's not worth it. No one is changing anyone's mind, least of all yours.

 

Not what I was talking about but I agree with you so long as the person is of sound mental capacity to make the decision.
Difference is that person gets to make the choice for themselves as opposed to a fetus that doesn’t not have any say in the matter.

 

That then can go for the woman also can’t it?
That argument against abortion gets laughed at by the pro abortion crowd.

 

That was my point. Someone on this sight said if women don’t want to get pregnant all they have to do is not have sex. So this advice isn’t good for men too?

 

Thank you for the compelling response which makes sense but for a couple of things.

The one is semantic in that we’re talking about a fetus, not a baby. A baby can survive independently outside the mother, a fetus can’t. It’s like calling batter a birthday cake. You really can’t call it a cake until it’s done and out of the oven.

The other is I don’t see the difference between a life support system that is human from one that is mechanical. When you disconnect from either then both the brain dead and the fetus die of natural causes. Further If you’re determining that if there’s a heartbeat then there must be life then you can’t disconnect from either.

Finally there’s an exception for rape and incest. Are those considered to be less of a “baby” in the eyes of the law? Just asking.

 

Abstinence is 100% effective, and yes the biological father should be held responsible for his part for the next nearly nineteen years of life if a woman is being forced against her will to be a human incubator. Good luck with that.

 

I think you may have misunderstood my position. I'm arguing the exact opposite, that a minority should not be able to impose their moral code on the majority in a well-functioning representative government, and that is exactly what's happening here with this bill.

Again, that opinion is based on a moral code and set of beliefs held by a minority of the population, which means that in an effective representative government, it would not be forced down our throats.

And what I think you're also missing is that other places in the world still sanctioning that level of barbarism against women is almost guaranteed to not be the actual moral code/beliefs of the majority of actual people in those countries. It's the code of an oppressive minority asserting their dogma and dominance onto others.

This abortion stance is the same thing, even if it's significantly lower in scale of oppression. A minority belief is being asserted on the masses because the people in power want it that way against the majority of the population's wishes.

 

No one is "pro" abortion, we are for choice. In other words, MYOB