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Florida woman forced to give birth to a baby that will die immediately

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Feb 26, 2023.

  1. AzCatFan

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    Colorado. Started a free birth control for all 14 and older in 2009. Teen pregnancy rates dropped by 40%, and abortion rates by 42% . These are results that should be hailed and repeated across the country. In contrast, in the same study, states especially in the south with abstinence only education have higher rates of teen pregnancy compared to other states.
     
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  2. philnotfil

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    And the GOP ended that program. Showing the GOP isn't actually for reducing abortion.
     
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  3. FutureGatorMom

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    So we are all robots that should live our lives and make the same exact decisions that certain others think we should make? They made their decision, they are content with it. Good for them. Seems selfish to me. For others, it could be traumatizing, especially if you force them into it.
     
  4. FutureGatorMom

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  5. FutureGatorMom

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    The condoms would be in high school, not middle, and would be in the nurse's office. First year of middle they should have sex ed to at least educate them how a baby is made, and how to avoid it, including abstaining. Parents have a larger part than any school does so I'm not sure what the argument y'all are having is.
     
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  6. VAg8r1

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    Unless I misinterpreted your post your argument is that comprehensive sex education increases rather than decreases the possibility of unwanted pregnancies. The facts speak otherwise.
    Study Finds that Comprehensive Sex Education Reduces Teen Pregnancy | ACLU
    More comprehensive sex education reduced teen births: Quasi-experimental evidence
    https://thehill.com/changing-americ...mprehensive-sex-education-programs-can-lower/
    Comprehensive Sex Education Might Reduce Teen Pregnancies, Study Suggests
    Comprehensive sex education associated with lower teen birth rates - UPI.com
    Although extremely anecdotal and based purely on speculation, my guess is that the parents of this teen opted out of comprehensive sex education at her high school.
    Sarah Palin reveals 17-year-old daughter is pregnant
    Bristol Palin Now Says Her "Disappointing" Pregnancy Was Actually Planned
    As far as the availability of contraception and the number of abortions are concerned.
    Access to free birth control reduces abortion rates | Newsroom | Barnes-Jewish Hospital
    Access to free birth control reduces abortion rates | Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis
    Access to birth control through ACA drives down abortion rate
     
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  7. BigCypressGator1981

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    Herp derp

    really clowning hard this weekend I see.
     
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  8. VAg8r1

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    Kids are going to have sex whether their parents of other adults want them to or not. While comprehensive sex education should encourage abstinence it also recognizes the reality that teens will have sex and if they do so they should be taught to do so responsibly. As I indicated in my other post and it was purely based on speculation, to extent that Bristol Palin had any type of sex education it was most likely abstinence only and that didn't work out too well considering she became pregnant and she along with the teen-age father of her baby were forced into the political equivalent of a short-lived shotgun marriage.
     
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  9. l_boy

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    Where you really make a difference is IUDs. Condoms may make a small difference.

    It really comes down to this. Do you want

    - Less birth control, marginally less sex, and more teenage unwanted births

    Or

    - more birth control, maybe a little more sex, and a lot less births?

    Seems to me you are more concerned about the sex and less about the births.
     
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  10. tampajack1

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    When will Jesus return to Earth, and when the wicked are destroyed, will there still be a Republican Party ?
     
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    1. No idea.
    2. There wont be political parties left.
     
  12. tampajack1

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    Good answers.
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/03/07/texas-abortion-ban-lawsuit-women-health/

    So here are 5 women who in theory should have qualified as exceptions but in reality we’re denied care due to legal and medical ambiguities.

    As a result of the ban, four of the women were forced to travel to other states to get emergency abortions, the lawsuit states. The fifth, lead plaintiff Amanda Zurawski, could not have an abortion despite her fetus having no chance of surviving, and was only allowed to deliver after she became septic, leaving her with permanent physical damage.

    Texas’s abortion ban has stoked fears among physicians of losing their licenses, being fined, and possibly facing civil and criminal charges for performing lifesaving obstetrics care, according to the suit, filed in Travis County District Court. This, the women say, has created a hush-hush code within the medical community that prevented them from accessing urgent care when they needed it most.

    All five women should have qualified for an abortion under the law’s exception, lead attorney Molly Duane said at a Tuesday news conference.
     
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    the opposition is based on religious beliefs and control, so their solution is no birth control (because they don’t believe in pre-marital sex unless it’s them), and no abortion.
     
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    If one uses the abortion formula and ritual for adulterous women as set out in the Bible, abortion is OK though, correct?


    Abortion isn't murder, that's your interpretation and carries no weight outside of Planklandia. Benevolent dictator? I think I'd rather take my chances in North Korea, thank you.
     
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    Pretty certain Plank, along with our Q, are both ZERO exception believers. 17 year old gets brutally raped and pregnancy results? Carry to term. 13 year old impregnated by her uncle? Carry to term. Mother's life in serious jeopardy as a result of complications from her pregnancy? We'll light a candle. Your example above? Carry to term.

    These are extreme, barbaric positions and have no place in a civilized society, but the Republican party has chosen to give them a significant voice.
     
  17. gatorplank

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    You believe killing the unborn is not murder. Nazis believed killing Jews was not murder. And the KKK believed that lynching black people was not murder. A Nazi or a Klan member could have made the same exact argument you are making.
     
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    What peole should be more worried about is when he does return, he will collect all of those unwanted babies from foster care and literally wash his hands of the rest of us. Especially the chest thumping, ultra righteous.