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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. mikemcd810

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    Yet you dismiss criticism of the conclusions of the corcharan study which was included in the original Washington Post editorial. Why is it that you're so quick to accept the criticism of this study but not the criticism of the conclusions of the corchan study? I'm admittedly not a statistician so perhaps you have some background that allows you to more critically evaluate these studies; however, if that were the case you'd likely be able to make your point without starting every post with "LOL"
     
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  2. gator95

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    It's Cochrane. Tough to take you seriously when you butcher the name numerous times.
     
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  3. mikemcd810

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    Fine. Here's an explanation for why the Cochrane study is flawed:

    Yes, masks reduce the risk of spreading COVID, despite a review saying they don’t

    Let's be honest though. You can't actually tell me why the Bangladesh study is flawed and had to google looking for someone else to explain why the same way I couldn't tell you why the Cochrane study is flawed without googling it to look for an explanation.

    I can however read the result of the Cochrane study which is much more uncertain about the results than you seem to be:

    The high risk of bias in the trials, variation in outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies hampers drawing firm conclusions.

    There is uncertainty about the effects of face masks. The low to moderate certainty of evidence means our confidence in the effect estimate is limited,
    and that the true effect may be different from the observed estimate of the effect.
     
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  4. mikemcd810

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    Tough to take you seriously when you don't even understand the conclusion of the study you keep citing
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    So the Cochrane studies missed where talisman do stop poison Unicorn dander ?
     
  6. gator95

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    You aren't the first person to use the Bangladesh study as a reason masks work. I had arguments over a year ago concerning this study. I did explain why the Bangladesh study didn't say what some journalists think it said. Sorry if you don't like the outcomes, but the Cochrane review shows masks don't work. But hey, if you want to mask up for the rest of your life, have at it. Just don't try to mandate something that doesn't work.
     
  7. mikemcd810

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    Maybe we're not having the same argument. I don't think masks make sense anymore with NI and vaccinations. I do think masks were worthwhile during the early stages of the pandemic, even with potentially low effectiveness, because there was no downside in mask mandates if there was a possibility they could provide any benefit.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    So vaccines repel unicorn dander so you don’t need masks anymore.

    It’s okay to breathe, people. Somebody else’s dead cellular debris isn’t going to kill you.
     
  9. gator95

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    They weren't useful, as the Cochrane study showed. There was a large downside to mask mandates. It made people think they wouldn't catch covid, which was a lie all along. Hence why so many people got covid, even if "masked".
     
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  10. mikemcd810

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    Maybe we lived through a different pandemic. I don't remember "wear a mask and do whatever you want." I remember: stay at home if possible, but if you must got out wear a mask and social distance. Avoid large crowds altogether. I'd love to see the evidence that masks caused more covid infections.
     
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  11. gatordavisl

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    You provided evidence that masks work - bravo!
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    I’d love to see the evidence that there were anything other than positive test results and/or the usual symptoms attached to eliminative symptoms.
     
  13. mikemcd810

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    You think unicorns are real
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    At least as real as viruses. And they’ve killed 1.2 million Americans since 2020.
     
  15. QGator2414

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    It is known science what the purpose of masks are. If you want to virtue around wearing one. Go for it.

    There are very few people who actually believe the wrong idea that they work. But I actually have more respect for the person wearing a mask in their car with other occupants (by themselves smh) than I do for most. I will make an assumption and if I am wrong. My apologies. But most like you are the ones who do it wear a mask around your loved ones at your house or in the car which are smaller enclosed areas for sometimes extended periods. Yet virtue away in a large open space store.

    Even fauci knows masks don’t work. I know he threw his career away to propagandize people like you. But just research him in masks pre pandemic.

    Here is in 2019 explaining how to deal with an infectious disease and even addresses the question on masks. 23:10 if you don’t want to watch the whole thing…

     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    You guys.
     
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  18. gator95

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    Can't wait for the Lockdown, maskers and school lockdown nutjobs to ignore the data showing Sweden has one of the lowest excess mortality rates in Europe during the covid pandemic. Mental gymnastics coming soon...

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  19. duggers_dad

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    Sweden put most of the rest of the world to shame. And not because it didn’t lock down. It did lock down, but to a much lesser degree than it’s peers. And perhaps most importantly, it’s government did not work nonstop to sow fear. And this was reflected in polls taken, in 2020, showing that Swedes were the least worried about catching Covid.