The Idea of a National Divorce/Splitting Up the Country

So if the younger generations are overwhelmingly liberal as you assert, there would be a mass emigration from conservative states to liberal states, and conservative states would be mostly older people and a few straggling kids?

So who is going to support all those old people in conservative countries?

 

Believe your parents, that’s fine. I was a history major at UF with a 20th century focus though, so I’m not talking out of my backside either,
And believe it or not, the nazi threat didn’t unify us in the 30’s it divided us. There as a strong anti war sentiment in the US right up until about 1940. In fact pro Nazis rented out Madison square garden and sold it out for a rally in 1939.



Father Coughlin, arguably the most popular radio voice of the 1930’s, was anti Jew and anti war, and semi-openly pro nazi.
Charles E. Coughlin

these are things people either don’t know or conveniently minimize (not you, speaking generally). But if you look at an era in depth, there was always division, and some of it really stark and profound.

 

it would never be conservative. it would be something akin to your BIG GOV radical commie dream where people think a jackboot on the neck is freedom.

 

Please - stay away.

 

A largely true thread from one of those "coastal elites":



Honestly, the people in the rural South (and I live in Louisiana) imagine that they are far more important to people that live in New York than they actually are. They don't spend much time thinking about it, honestly (especially the areas outside of New Orleans). Or put another way:

 

yeah, we just can't wait for the day that weed & abortions are legal here.

 

Yesterday, you were super concerned about the policing in a town that you know nothing about 1,000 miles from where you live and in telling them how to solve it (you know, despite not knowing anything about the town other than what the Murdochs told you). Today, you are here telling people that those people want to dominate or stick it to you. Life comes at you fast.

 

Dude… what battles? No… just no. The only people in this country who think this way are extremists. There arent enough for an army. And the second they tried to raise one they would be arrested or killed. Like, just use common sense and some logic, how would it even start? No politician is going to risk their career for a civil war.

 

The pro-union arguments are myriad, and I don’t know where I should begin, but here’s two issues:

1) Multidimensionality. Let’s say I favor gay marriage and you don’t. So we should go into two separate countries. But then you believe in privatizing social security and so do I, so should be be back in the same country? But you think that we shouldn’t have such a strict separation of church and state, and I do, so we’re off. Until I learn that you are in favor of decriminalizing marijuana. You get the point.

2) minimum group paradigm. Basically, humans will find the differences among groups significant no matter how small and arbitrary. So you can never shed “those people”, because once you do, the next most different individuals will take their place. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimal_group_paradigm

And then not to mention the benefits of diversity and, as you pointed out, our cross country family bonds and friendships. I know you see a divided world, but I live in this same country and I don’t feel it really. The people on my street and in my Publix mostly vote in a different way than I, but we get along great.

 

NO!!! Stay away, Boebert's enough of a headache.

You sound more like a sovereign citizen looking to stir up mayhem.

 

It's weirdly cute that you think we'd let you be a citizen. I'm sure at least 1 of the other 4 would welcome you.

 

Maybe he just doesn’t currently possess the upright judgement and insight that you two share. There is a huge industry devoted to provoking our outrage and division, so I don’t think we should be so harsh when we find out that this effort has produced an effect. And responding with insults is likely to confirm this manufactured perspective of a hopelessly divided world.

 

dude. read the room.

 

Ok so you get your wish. How is life in FL, TX or CA better than it previously was?