The Idea of a National Divorce/Splitting Up the Country

there would be war either way. No avoiding it. You don’t think we can live in peace as one country but somehow will find a way as separate countries competing for resources? Yeah… no.

 

Not on your best day are republicans further left.

Wrong again.

Your nephew is probably thinking of Democratic socialism which is not a new idea for the young. It’s been that way for generations.

 

Jesus said, "A divided kingdom cannot stand." So, you have spoken words that are very true. Don't let anyone mock you for that. And we are split along the lines of ethics. There are at least two competing ethos in this country, and that divides us into at least two different peoples.

There are a couple of challenges to splitting the country up, though. First, China. If the US splits, China would become the most powerful country in the world. And that would be bad. I believe Xi wants world domination, and splitting up the US would create a clear pathway for that.

Second, those who lust for power and domination would never agree with it. We've seen this happen in China, Russia, etc and even half a century later they have not let even the island of Taiwan or Ukraine be their own autonomous ruling states. That same lust for power that runs through the China mainland would present itself here as well as you can very well see.

Third, the new countries would need to divorce, and then depend on trading with one another after that divorce. That could be difficult. There are also things the coastal areas have that the interior does not have. Educated labor is something the interior states might struggle with for example.

 

So you are saying that the coming generations will be all liberal and republicans won’t make a real difference, but you want to divide the country up now based upon current majority ideology? So what happens in the new conservative countries when liberal GenZ rules? Do they switch countries?

 

delusion & fear is a sad, sad life IMO. i hope your belief in something beyond/better gives you comfort & I mean that.

 

All this talk of fighting each other is silly. I mean, we all disagree on a lot of stuff but at the end of the day we want to be free to take advantage of the opportunities this country can provide. That’s it. We really going to fight a war over abortion, trans rights, or universal healthcare? No fricjen way that’s so silly. Don’t let yourself get riled up.

 

There would be a war but it would be a quick one. The military belongs to the United States, not the MAGA Republic of Bezerkistan. Red state secessionists would be purged from government and banned from running for election again, and the Republican Party would be forever banned.

 

You are indeed correct any split like the one proposed would dramatically decrease American power and influence. Having two separate militaries would be terribly inefficient.

 

A national nightmare

 

But you said GenZ is already overwhelmingly liberal. How is dividing up the country going to make them change their minds?

 

so you don't mean conservative. you mean "conservative" as perverted & made into a horrible BIG GOV concoction of fear, whining & addiction to safe spaces.

 

What is safespaceistan gonna do when all their women run over to the rocky mt region for good weed, good lovin' & freedom?

future UF cheer leaders

 

Civil war itself isn’t even very possible - we are too interconnected. It wouldn’t be state to state like before, it would be within communities. Yes, the military would try to put it down, at least the “leadership” asap to prevent a national disaster.

 

Yeah, I think he’s losing sight of the fact that it’s a government by the people, for the people … if the country is moving more liberal — which I’m not convinced is even the case — then the government should move more liberal, and be a representation of the people.

 

I think in 5 to 10 years the liberal countries would eat themselves alive. The whole country would be Chicago, Detroit, New York, etc. Better build a huge wall around the conservative country if you want to make sure it stays conservative.