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Haley to announce presidential run

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Feb 1, 2023.

  1. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Love how you libbies try to throw all the pubs in one nicely fitted little bag.
    Let’s see how it all shakes out shall we?
     
  2. G8trGr8t

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    he raised $250M for an election defense fund but offered no election defense and then redirected that many into his PAC that he used to pay his personal legal fees while still sitting on most of the rest of it.

    The ‘big rip-off’: how Trump exploited his fans with ‘election defense’ fund | Donald Trump | The Guardian

    There was only one problem with this epic flurry of emails: the Official Election Defense Fund did not exist. As the House committee investigating the January 6 insurrection at the US Capitol revealed in a public hearing this week, Trump and his allies raised $250m from the emails by persuading loyal followers to donate to a chimera.

    There was no fund dedicated to fighting election battles as part of Trump’s mendacious and ultimately vain “big lie” that the presidency had been stolen from him. Instead, the money went into Trump’s new fundraising entity Save America Pac, from where millions of dollars were distributed to pro-Trump organizations including his own hotel properties and the company that produced the Ellipse rally in Washington on January 6 just hours before the storming of the Capitol.

    As Zoe Lofgren, a Democratic member of the January 6 committee, put it: “The big lie was also a big rip off.”

    Trump’s political action committee spent $10m on his personal legal bills, report says | The Independent
    Donald Trump’s Save America political action committee spent about $10m on law firms representing him in private legal disputes in 2022, according to Federal Election Commission filings obtained by the New York Times.

    The legal fees went towards Mr Trump’s battles with the writer E. Jean Carroll, who has accused him of sexual assault, his former attorney Michael Cohen, and for a tax fraud civil case that ended with 17 convictions for the Trump Organization in December.


    A total of $16m from Mr Trump’s PAC went towards his legal expenses in 2021 and 2022.

    The spending amounted to about 20 per cent of Save America’s total expenditures that were not payments to other political candidates, according to the Times.


    he was forced to return $122M in donor money, much of it from relatively low income people, because he lied to and deceived donors

    Trump Campaign Reportedly Forced To Refund More Than $122 Million To Donors (forbes.com)

    Former President Donald Trump's reelection campaign issued a staggering sum of $122.7 million in refunds to supporters in 2020, giving back nearly 11% of the money it raised, according to an investigative report published by the New York Times on Saturday based on an analysis of Federal Election Commission filings.

    Beginning last summer, the Trump campaign and the company that processed its online donations, WinRed, began to initiate the use of pre-checked recurring payment boxes while processing online offerings, Times analysis revealed.

    According to the report, unless donors inspected the fine print of an online disclaimer and manually unchecked an opt-out box, the donor's credit card would be charged weekly until Election Day arrived.

    .................
    "It felt like it was a scam," Russell Blatt told the Times after his family realized that $3,000 had been withdrawn from the account of his brother, Stacy, who was battling cancer and living on less than $1,000 per month.




    is that conniving? how does MAGA just ignore this stuff along with the charities he has cheated, his disrepect for anyone and everyone that doesn't worship him? I truly do not understand how seemingly intelligent people jsut refuse to acknowledge these types of actions over and over again. It truly is cult like
     
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  3. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    I dont know what Haley actually believes, she's been on all sides of it. Sure she did something in 2015 after a white racist murdered some people, but then 2020 happened and Republicans decided there was an antifa race war against white people and that taking down statues and flags was white genocide and that even teaching about racism was a terrible crime the government must stop, which is more in line with her past statements and "anti-woke" campaign rhetoric. So why should we give any politician credit? Anyways, I can tell you now how it will shake out for her, she drops out after the first primary where she gets 3% of the vote and kisses the ass of the apparent front runner hoping for a VP nod. She's the Kamala of this race.
     
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  4. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Nobody thought Obama would emerge and blow up the way he did either.
    But it’s fun to be a know it all I guess.
     
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  5. VAg8r1

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    I disagree only to the extent of how long she will remain in the race. My guess is that she doesn't drop out until after she has finished back in the pack after several primaries.
     
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  6. VAg8r1

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    While Obama was far behind Hillary Clinton at this point in 2007 polling at 17% he was still doing better back then than Haley has any of the 2024 Republican polls with a best of 6%. From 2007.
    Clinton took 41 percent in a hypothetical primary field against 12 other Democrats, far ahead of Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) at 17 percent, former Sen. John Edwards (N.C) at 11 percent and former Vice President Al Gore at 10 percent. The party's 2004 nominee -- Sen. John Kerry (Mass.) -- received 8 percent support. No other candidate crested three percent. Those numbers are virtually unchanged from a Post-ABC survey in December that showed Clinton at 39 percent, Obama at 17 percent and Edwards at 12 percent.
    FYI: New Washington Post-ABC Poll Shows Senator Clinton Leading Democratic Primary Field | The American Presidency Project

    What's more interesting as well as more completely off the mark in the end were the Republican presidential polls at the time.
    Giuliani Solidifies Lead in Republican Nomination Poll
     
  7. BigCypressGator1981

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    I wouldn’t say that. After his 2004 DNC speech I think he was firmly in play and many could see it coming.
     
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  8. wgbgator

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    You have to admit what you didnt see coming was Biden gaffing his way out of the '08 primary very early then becoming president 12 years later
     
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  9. BigCypressGator1981

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    after trump got elected I was done with being surprised.
     
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  10. dangolegators

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    I think if you use your kids as props in a pro-Trump ad that qualifies you as a MAGA Republican. It also qualifies you as a despicable pos.
     
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  11. GatorJMDZ

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    That just got harder...now there's going to be a split of the Indian Republican vote.:oops:
     
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  12. Gator715

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    Coming from the same people that defend the taking of kids to drag shows and parading them in LGBTQ merch... this rings more than a little hollow.
     
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  13. PITBOSS

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    Dems had him as a keynote speaker in 2004 convention which made him a rising star.
     
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  14. rivergator

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    I listened to an interview with Haley on Bari Weiss honestly. I have to say I was impressed. I would not be uncomfortable with her as President although I think she has zero chance in the primaries.
     
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  16. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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  17. BLING

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    You really have a thing about drag shows and LGBTQ.

    Methinks thou dost protest too much.
     
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  19. BLING

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    Leftist Activist: Black Lives Matter.
    Right: Stop race baiting, ALL lives matter.

    Lefty Activist: OK, All Lives Matter.
    Righty: What? STFU snowflake. look, there’s a drag show over there, let’s get ‘em!!!
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  20. jjgator55

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    Like I keep saying, she’s not running to be President, she’s running to be VP.