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So what’s new in DuhSantistan?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by jjgator55, May 18, 2022.

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  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Yeah, I think this is correct. So much 'objective' journalism is premised on taking all sides of any issue seriously, even when one side might be nonsense or completely unsupported by fact. In many cases, that sort of results in a dumbing down effect, or an abdication of responsibility to report something clearly. I think media literacy is an important skill, especially in today's world.
     
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  2. Orange_and_Bluke

    Orange_and_Bluke Premium Member

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    Your article is interesting and very on point with the TH crowd. Noteworthy is a point that shows how higher intelligence and stronger understanding of issues important to us, actually makes us more polarized.
    These effects are not reduced by intelligence, access to information, or education. Indeed, greater scientific literacy and mathematical ability have been shown to actually increase polarization on scientific issues that have been politicized, such as the cause of climate change or the benefits of gun control.
    Higher ability in these areas appears to boost people’s ability to interpret the available evidence in favor of their preferred conclusions.
     
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  3. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

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    Mitt Romney has been fact checked 208 times. Thanks for contributing to the discussion proving Politifact is far left leaning. We can keep going if you want LOL. Too easy.
     
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  4. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    DeSantis: screw the families, I’ve got a presidency to win!
     
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  5. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

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    I'm not an anti-vaxxer at all. I'm anti vax for kids who are healthy. That was stupid. Also we had data from Europe showing schools weren't a more dangerous place for covid spread than the surrounding community. This was purely a play by the teachers unions for a money grab. You are trying revisionist history.
     
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  6. gator95

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    Good question. I take most of what I read with a heavy grain of salt.
     
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  7. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

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    Nope. Not even close. I've shown the data. Your explanation doesn't explain the increase in R's getting fact checked compared to D's. Not difficult to figure out unless you don't want to know the answer.
     
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  8. gator95

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    Yeah, they were spot on saying the lab leak was a lie LOL.
     
  9. gator95

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    LOL. Yeah, only one side plays loose with the facts LOL.
     
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  10. Orange_and_Bluke

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  11. jjgator55

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    Anti-vaxer for healthy kids, huh. So your idea of vaccinating kids is to wait for the kids to get sick first? You really don’t know how vaccinations work.

    Your logic behind the Europe data is also a head scratcher, but the truth is many parents wanted the schools open because it’s free child care. Yes schools weren’t a more dangerous place, just one more additional place where their child could get sick.
     
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  12. jjgator55

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    Yes, your side.
     
  13. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

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    LOL. Almost zero healthy kids died from covid. The vaccine doesn't help kids that much especially after 3 months. And somehow you forgot to mention that the vaccine itself causes more myocarditis cases especially in boys. So yeah, healthy kids didn't need to be vaccinated.

    Europe isn't a head scratcher unless you choose to ignore the data. But sure, keep making up stuff. Par for the course.
     
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  14. gator95

    gator95 GC Hall of Fame

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    Cute that you think only one side plays loose with the facts. Tells me all i need to know about you. Too funny. Some people are so partisan and they love being partisan more than being correct.
     
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  15. duggers_dad

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    What’s so bad about being an “anti-vaxxer”?

    It’s just saying you reject potentially harmful medical interventions for fictitious diseases.

    It’s just the modern version of saying leave out eye of newt, we don’t need that.
     
  16. GatorRade

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    It’s seems a reasonable conclusion, but once adopted it obviously doesn’t leave us in a very strong position to say much with authority.
     
  17. GatorRade

    GatorRade Rad Scientist

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    I think the issue is that this take is that it equates your personal beliefs and knowledge. Clearly this isn’t a tenable solution to our problem, as no two of us share the exact same personal beliefs. Therefore, these beliefs cannot all be entered in our canon of knowledge.

    As Charles Sanders Peirce so keenly noted over a century ago:

    It will appear that individualism and falsity are one and the same. In the meantime we know that man is not whole as long as he is single, that he is essentially a possible member of society. Especially one man’s experience is nothing. If he sees what others cannot, we call it hallucination. It is not ‘my’ experience but ‘our’ experience that needs to be thought of; and this ‘us’ has indefinite possibilities.”
     
  18. BobK89

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    Smallpox? Measels? Polio?
     
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  19. jjgator55

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    Since you foolishly believe the disease never existed then I may as well be talking to a rake, but let’s be clear that I have absolutely no problem with a person being an anti-vaxer, it’s very much your right to not get vaccinated. It’s like the abortion issue in that if you’re against abortion then don’t have one. No one is forcing you to have one. With vaccinations you’re free to not have one if that’s your choice, as is wearing a mask, but the vast majority of people believe unvaccinated people who don’t wear masks have a greater ability to spread airborne diseases, and pose a greater risk to everyone else. So yes you have a right to not get vaccinated but you don’t have the right to spread the disease to others. That also goes for things you do believe in, like conspiracy theories.
     
  20. duggers_dad

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    Potentially risky pharmaceutical interventions for blistering phenomena ?
     
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