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So the FBI now says the virus came from a lab leak

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by 1990Gator, Mar 2, 2023.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Actually, Covid was strikingly partisan. Democrats were much more fearful than were Republicans.

    I was at Goodyear today, getting my tires checked. In walked a young man wearing two (2) N95 masks.

    He couldn’t have been any more transparent had he had Democrat scrawled on his forehead.
     
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  2. jjgator55

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    Yes. That’s why I say “At this point.” At first we had no idea.
     
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  4. buckeyegator

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    where is this on the forum page???
     
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  6. ncargat1

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    I apologize for the fact that you support a ridiculous theory.
     
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  7. G8tas

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    OP it's now ok to trust the FBI? I can't keep up with you guys
     
  8. kygator

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    Your side told you it was a ridiculous theory so you believed them.
     
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  9. gatorpa

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    Did you care to comment on the FBI report?
    That’s what this thread is about not the department of energy report.
     
  10. gatorpa

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    Not to some here, which I find very strange.
    If it came for Russia would they best so lackadaisical about it?
    What if it was something that the US was working on and got out? I’m sure some here would be ready to burn the flag over that.
     
  11. duggers_dad

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    *sighs* germites
     
  12. ncargat1

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    I very much think it matters. We are only 3 years into knowing this virus existed. I very much think that we continue to study it, hunt for it and try to find the origins.

    Understanding the origins has the potential for unlocking additional information that could be used to to improve anti-virals and even the vaccines themselves.

    If it turned out to be an engineered virus, using a backbone structure previously unknown to the world of genetic engineering, then it would be good to know because that would imply that the Chinese are light years ahead of the west in genetic engineering (hint: They aren't).

    I do think it is well worth continuing to study, I just do not think people are prepared to wait around for scientists to work.
     
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  13. WarDamnGator

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    It's not? Because the OP sure did make a claim about it ... "now both the FBI and the Department of Energy both say the virus came from a Wuhan Lab leak".

    I think that grossly overstates what the Department of Energy said ... what does the FBI report say? Did they assign a level of confidence?
     
  14. ncargat1

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    My side? You mean the papers published by experts in the field?? That side?? Yes, I read them and I agree with most of their conclusions based on the data available and my non-expert understanding of their field of study. That sort of puts me on the "side" of published, peer reviewed science. Not a bunch of crack pots looking for headlines, while at the same time putting in the footnote that they have little to no confidence in their own splashy headlines.
     
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  15. PerSeGator

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    What does "low confidence" that it "most likely" was a lab leak even mean?

    Is that like maybe probably? Probably not, but probably? Gun to our head we say lab leak, but we really have no idea?
     
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  16. WarDamnGator

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    The CDC's position, last I read anything on it, is that these types of viruses usually originate in animals, but they can't rule out a lab leak. I think that's a fair assessment, by people who actually have the expertise to study this kind of stuff. I'm scratching my head wondering how or why the FBI and Department of Energy even have an opinion on this.
     
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  17. kygator

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    Greater than 50%, but nowhere close to 100%.
     
  18. exiledgator

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    Yeah. This is the baffling part for me.

    It's like taking nutritional advice from NASA.

    Can't wait to hear what the IRS thinks about north Atlantic fisheries!
     
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  19. PerSeGator

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    DOE runs the national labs, so maybe they figure as American science guys they should have an opinion on what the Chinese science guys are up to.
     
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  20. buckeyegator

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    i was told being blocked by the OP means i cannot see the thread on the main page, censorship is alive and well.
     
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