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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AzCatFan

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    The point is I lived. So did hundred of thousands, if not millions who would've died had we followed the Great Barrington Declaration. Following this path early on cost thousands of lives in the UK. A policy that was quickly reversed, and later called the biggest public health mistake in history.

    Having thousands of more parents, other care givers, and teachers die would've caused a lot more damage. And with that much death, there would've been panic and people staying home, keeping their kids home, and teachers who would've refused to come into work. Damage done, and millions more dead.

    Global pandemics are no win scenarios. Damage done to the living is reversible. Death is not.
     
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  2. BigCypressGator1981

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    The irony, of course, is you are the one who has been duped by propaganda. Listening to a bunch of quack idiot YouTube doctors whilst thumbing your nose at the entire scientific community. You’re a B level troll. And you’ll keep going and going and going and going…
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    You clearly lived in fear for no reason. A few schools (not districts/not states/not the country) may have had to do something that they did in the past. Shut down for a few days and then add the days back on if necessary based on requirements. That is exactly what we should have done. To protect the most vulnerable kids.

    How you do not understand shutting down for a few days and keeping kids online for a year speaks to the power of propaganda!
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    Sheer pseudo-scientific hysteria. The principals of the GMB, virus believers they; imminent scientists they, were subjected to the most shameful and scurrilous attacks, hounded on social media, de-platforms or shadow-banned ... all for the grievous crimes of calling for a saner approach to interventions, interventions that would shelter the vulnerable without causing the disastrous social and economic upheaval their disputants embraced.
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    So did the vast majority of other people. Bless your heart. You would have lived if we did not cause the massive damage we did. Like me...
     
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  6. QGator2414

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    You are cute. I get you lived in fear for no reason and cannot recognize it. One day you might...
     
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  7. mikemcd810

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    How do you figure a few days? Our classrooms are overcrowded. There would be constant covid cases. The quarantine period is not a few days. One case would bleed into the next and into the next.

    It's not propaganda. It's common sense, basic reasoning skills, the ability to recall the realities of what life was like in 2020.
     
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  8. GatorJMDZ

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    You've spammed the board enough for one night. Give it a rest.
     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    I am overweight, with a life-long history of asthma. I'm also closer to 50 than I am 45. A friend of mine a year younger, similar comirbidities, got COVID before the vaccine and ended up in the hospital. Lucky she survived. You and I have no idea how I would've fared. I never wanted to find out. And I'm glad my kids aren't part of the 10.5 million American kids who lost a care giver. And I'm glad the number isn't higher than 10.5 million, which it would have been had you been in charge.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    It was perfectly logical.

    As follows from an outlandish belief.
     
  11. duggers_dad

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    I’m older than you are and asthmatic as you are. Surely one reason I didn’t die is that I avoided going to the hospital, during the early phase of pan-panic, where I would have been tested and, if testing positive would have likely been subjected to potentially lethal ‘Covid protocol.’ But somehow you were broken by relentless gaslighting.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    What is wrong with people ? What ever happened to gut instinct ? To proper caution ? To seeking other perspectives ?

    Sure, I was concerned in the early days of pan-panic. But then I began to notice that beaches weren’t littered with the bodies of Spring Breakers.

    I literally didn’t remember 2009. I read that there was a severe ‘pandemic’ in 68/69 but somehow Woodstock never turned into a massive necropolis.

    I went back to the mother of all ‘pandemics’, the Spanish Flu. You’d see some photos of people wearing masks. But life went on. And they played baseball!

    Then I returned to memories of the ‘AIDS crisis.’ I was working as a medical courier at the time. I handled blood and tissue samples.

    I remember a young Fauci warning that the ‘virus’ would burn through the general population. Then Surgeon General C. Everett Koop warned that, in 1988, that unless a vaccine was found 100 million would be dead by 2000.

    And one news weekly darkly intoned that the extinction of humankind might be at hand.

    But life went on. And with no marked abnormalities.

    But in 2020 humanity lost its s***.
     
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  13. BigCypressGator1981

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    maybe one day you’ll quit melting down like a snowcone about covid. I doubt it. But you never know!
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    You are making up a hypothetical already. We had two schools close for a couple of days after reopening for Fall 2020 in Marion County Florida. That is it. And they were not even public schools. Stop letting the propaganda drive your beliefs. And they reopened just fine.

    If it were the flu…I bet they would have never closed. But some are still obsessed with Covid. It’s crazy. But you are defining that obsession and crazy.
     
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    You have spammed the board by adding nothing for years now. Give it a rest.
     
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  17. QGator2414

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    You don’t shut down because you needed to clean up some health issues. You learn and do what needs to be done.
     
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  18. BigCypressGator1981

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    Sometimes it genuinely seems like you don’t understand anything.
     
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  19. duggers_dad

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    Remember the terrifying reports coming out of Italy early March 2020 ?

    Remember the military brigade and the stacked up coffins ?

    It was from 2013. Immigrants who died in a shipping accident off Lampedusa.

    With outright fraud like that, how could anyone trust anything they saw on the news ?
     
  20. AzCatFan

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    You shut down when you have an airborne, novel virus that is killing millions world wide, and quickly becomes the third leading cause of death. That was COVID.

    And pray tell, had we followed the Declaration, living with a high school kid, what would I would I have done as a high risk individual? Not spend time with my kid? Or just say forget it, knowing I was putting myself at greater risk of a severe COVID case outcome?

    Risk aversion is what pandemic mitigation is about. 1 in 5 American households are multi-generational. 3 in 5 Americans have a COVID comorbidity. How do you simply protect the more vulnerable when we live in this kind of society? Answer is, you cannot.

    And what's the tradeoff for putting people like me at a greater risk of hospitalization and death? So some kids can take a field trip? I hope you can see why that's a trade I don't want to make. Putting my life in greater danger to ensure kids are safer? I'll do that. But risk my life so others aren't inconvenienced? That's an extremely hard no.
     
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