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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. BigCypressGator1981

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    Without looking into this any further I’d wager my life it’s complete horseshit because 1) it’s a tweet and 2) you posted it.
     
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  2. AzCatFan

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    You are 100% incorrect. Fauci helped write the Pandemic Playbook under the W. Bush admin, and added to to under Obama. Trump threw that in the trash, and went his own way. If we deviated from known medicine, it's Trump's fault. Not Fauci's.

    As for NI, remember, the first data back from Manaus, Brazil questioned how strong NI was. It was later discovered that the Manaus data was flawed. But if you truly follow the data and science, you don't know that until later.
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    LOL!

    This fool pushed lockdowns and keeping kids out of school via his fear mongering while ignoring what we knew about the disease and who was at risk.

    He did not follow the “playbook” he wrote. Shoot the “playbook” was irrelevant for this disease anyways. Contact tracing was a complete joke with how fast Covid spreads. And instead of focusing on treatment we went for a “vaccine” with a new technology that ended up failing and pushed it as a one size fits all shot which is the antithesis of science and medicine. All while peddling fear.

    fauci is the worst. Literally!
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    If SARS-Cov2 had never been ‘discovered’ we’d never have known the difference.

    Deaths always increase in the winter. This highly predictable phenomenon is referred to as winter burden of death.

    Winter burden of death is erroneously attributed, in part, to non-existent ‘respiratory viruses.’

    Setting that aside, the US had exited an unusually mild winter burden of death in 2019/20.

    It was not until March 2020, when the WHO issued its ominous global pandemic warning, that panic ensued and hospitals became killing fields.
     
  5. Gatorrick22

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  7. duggers_dad

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    The ‘pandemic’ started in Wuhan and spread to Northern Italy, particularly the Po Valley, the most aged and most polluted region in Europe in a country which healthcare system had already been gutted.
     
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  8. Gatorrick22

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    I still wonder if the statistics are true...
     
  9. mikemcd810

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    I love these kind of things. Let's think about how this would work. The claim is that three different vaccine manufactures conspired together to send the 0.5% of vaccine batches that were determined to be "highly toxic" to red states. They did this by coordinating so that one company would send the toxic batch at one point in time while the others send good batches (in order to avoid suspicion). They would then switch and a different company would send the toxic batch the next time. All for the purpose of killing maybe several hundred people according to the data.

    So, a high ranking person at one company would have had to approach the other two companies, and instead of immediately notifying the authorities, the people at the other companies agreed that this was a great plan. Now they have to put this into place. They'll have to instruct the quality department not to dispose of these highly toxic batches but instead to actually ship them to red states. Now you have the people in charge of the quality department and the people who would be in charge of disposing of these on board with your scheme. Of course, the evidence of any testing would have to be retained and is subject to review by authorities so either they just weren't checking or also thought this was a brilliant plan.

    Next, whoever is in charge of distribution would have to be given instruction to ship this very specific batch to specific states. An unusual request that no one would have to question.

    I'm sure I'm missing a number of other people who would also become aware of this scheme and not blow the whistle.

    I think I agree with Rick....this cannot possibly be true.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Some people in Wuhan, one of the most polluted regions in the world, experienced respiratory illness.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    In the highly polluted Po Valley, hospitals took the frail elderly, who were struggling to breathe, and put them on respiratory inhibitors.

    But it was Covid that killed them.
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    So Fauci was supposed to have Jedi powers and know how a novel (meaning new) virus would react. And that's the playbook he was supposed to follow?!? Ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous.

    The playbook was lockdowns and closing down schools, because all we knew was this was an airborne virus. Remember, at first, we were cleaning off packages because we knew COVID could survive? Surface contact is one way the flu transmits, so it made sense, early on, to assume, this was one way COVID was spreading. We later learned that while COVID can live on surfaces, it rarely transmits in this way. So, we stopped disinfecting every package that got delivered.

    The Pandemic Playbook can be read here. A good read on how the Trump admin threw the book into the trash and followed their own, anti-science agenda can be read here. Some of the ways the Trump admin failed was having a unified, national message from the start, failed in getting the NPA enacted to ensure there was enough PPE for all medical professionals and first responders, and failed to let the scientists be the focal point in sending a unified message. Trump's response to the pandemic should be studied in the future as the perfect way to mess up a response to a pandemic, so future admins can do everything exactly the opposite.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    In NYC, panicked doctors, concerned that CPAP machines would spew aerosols and kill hospital staff, rushed to cram ventilators into the lungs of patients struggling to breathe.

    But it was Covid that killed them.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    Anybody who would lockdown and shut schools down like we did for a virus like this is an idiot or evil. If you want to give a pass for a month. Okay. Even DeSantis deserves blame for keeping kids out of school as long as he did. Granted when you look at the whole it makes sense why he did. But he was not going to let the damage done continue in Florida.

    We knew enough about this virus to not do the idiotic things we did.
     
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  15. duggers_dad

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    In nursing homes, the frail elderly were neglected, heavily sedated, isolated from loved ones, abandoned to despair.

    But it was Covid that killed them.
     
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  16. AzCatFan

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    Not if you actually follow the science and what was being published in resected scientific journals. From this study, published in the BMJ, published July, 2020:

    In this study, five commonly introduced physical distancing interventions in 149 countries were associated with on average a 13% reduction in the incidence of covid-19. No additional benefit was found associated with closures of public transport when a combination of school closures, workplace closures, restrictions on mass gatherings, and restrictions of population movement (ie, lockdown) was in place. A greater reduction in incidence was observed when restriction on mass gatherings was included in the intervention combination, and when lockdown was implemented earlier along with school and workplace closures. [emphasis added]
     
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  17. mikemcd810

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    Who was going to teach the kids when the teachers got COVID?
     
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  18. Tjgators

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    The triggered lemming wants to wager her life over a timeline with facts. Can I talk you out of this? Life is not meh.
     
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    People wrested from their jobs, their purpose, unable to provide for their families turned to alcohol, drugs ... worse.

    But it was Covid that killed them.
     
  20. BigCypressGator1981

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