Lee County FL GOP passes resolution to “Ban the Jab”

Ok, well you're coming off of DeSantis a bit then, because a while back you were more supportive of him. Guess all of his authoritarian culture war BS is starting to get to you. Good. I would be ok with a Romney or a Hogan as president but there's no way your team will ever nominate them.

 

No I’m not. I’m was just waiting for you to finish, but now I’m done waiting.

 

If you guys are finally finished we can talk about the real scam.

 

So what gives a public employee more rights to refuse an employer required vaccination than a private sector employee? What does tax payer funding have to do with anything?

 

If my employer instituted a requirement to have your appendix removed, whether needed or not, I don’t know if I’d go to court over it. I’d probably just quit. Why would I want to work another day for a company like that ?

 

I havent come off DeSantis. He is the guy I will vote for because those other guys are a myth. They wont run.

 

I contend you have it backward.
I dont think a public employer has the right to require the injection of a relatively new vaccine into your body to keep a job that you were granted and qualified for prior to said injection ever existing.

Wanna require it for new hires, I might be on board to some extent, but firing otherwise loyal and proven employees over it? Thats a no for me.

 

Well everyone here sees that you were dishonest in your assertion and your repeated chances to prove your claim have been no existent, so I'd bail too.

 

We know. You'll vote for the guy you disagree with on a bunch of major issues because go team.

 

So now you’re against it.

 

Ok, maybe that’s what you believe, but I’m pretty sure there is no precedent in law for that, and to be honest I can’t find any logic to that at all. It seems completely arbitrary.

I know of no precedent where an employer can’t change the requirements of employment, upon new circumstances. The world changes.

Most conservatives support right to work job environments, including government employees. In such situations they can terminate employment for any reason, provided it does not violate laws regarding protected classes. The unvaccinated are not a protected class.

 

I mean when only 2 teams exist...*shrug*

 

“The unvaccinated are not a protected class.”

Fact Check: False - they’re protected from the adverse effects of vaccines.

 

What on earth are you talking about?

 

It happens all the time. It's called grandfathering. Companies change rules all the time and often dont apply them to existing employees.

 

Employers can choose to do that, but are under no obligation to. A pandemic is an unusual and unexpected event, so ii isn’t unreasonable for employers to make requirements regarding it. The notion that government employers should not be able to put in such requirements as circumstances change is just bizarre.

I really can’t get my arms around your infinite compassion for anti vaxxers, at the expense of everybody else, and the government’s need to accommodate them, to the point of otherwise abandoning conservative principles regarding employers having wide latitude to deal with employees. You act as if anti vaxxers are victims and have no control or accountability for their choices.

 

I think that a punitive reaction to a very small percentage of the population was unnecessary and created its own separate issue. There are some (small) concerns with the vaccines.

Most people arent hashing it out on message boards.

There are people who arent glued to social media, phones etc who simply arent info hunters.

I'm not saying they are victims per se, but they also arent the selfish monsters that sone are trying yo paint them.

Some are genuinely concerned.

It can be hard to know whats truth in such a polluted information environment.

But i simply dont know that the data really suggests that the punitive response was that helpful.

 

I’m looking for this thread to go to 2,000 pages!

 

I don’t doubt their concerns are real. But people are accountable for their beliefs, to the extent it impacts their actions. Some people really are racist. They may really believe certain notions of minority inferiority. But if they were to express those in the work place or use it in hiring they will be held accountable. But in the anti vax case you seem to think that their harmful incorrect beliefs should be accommodated.

The approach isn’t intended to by punitive. The approach is to have workplace safety rules, and people who refuse to comply with such rules are terminated. Just like if they refuse to abide by any other workplace rules.