Lee County FL GOP passes resolution to “Ban the Jab”

I want to point out that public health, media and governments conspired to commit crimes against humanity including mass-manslaughter.

 

I don’t know the numbers either, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it increased the compliance 10% nation wide. While that may seem low, going from 40% unvaxxed to 30% unvaxxed can put a meaningful dent in the spread or deaths.

My recollection was the rate of vaccination stalled but when the mandates approached they did tick back up again.

If you look a states that higher vax rates vs lower vax rates the spread and death rates were significantly lower in the high vax states. My guess would be they (mandates)saved somewhere between thousands of lives and tens of thousands of lives. Is that societal benefit enough to restrict peoples freedom to make dumb choices? That’s a value judgement.

The thing you have to consider is that early on, the popular assumption was that the pandemic and vaccine response would follow a pattern similar to historical vaccines and illness - you get vaxed, and when enough people get vaxed, you get to a herd immunity, and transmission goes way down. To a degree early on it was headed in that direction, but Covid is different because of its ability to mutate and it’s fast incubation period which reduces the vaccines long term effectiveness against infection (it is still effective against severe illness longer term). If covid was more like traditional illnesses and associated vaccines, then the vaccine mandates would have potentially saved hundreds of thousands of lives. But given the variants and the nature of covid, “only” thousands or tens of thousands were saved.

So now the popular thought process on the right is only thousands were saved and that benefit was not high enough to warrant loss of freedoms associated with mandates, (as well as an unfounded belief that thousands have died from the vaccine). I don’t agree with that POV regardless, but that is a backward looking perspective, which retroactively applies what we know now vs what we didn’t know then.

 

Either you’ve gone down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories or you’re just putting us all on. If you’ve gone down the rabbit hole you can do a little research and you’ll find a number studies of people like yourself that believe in them. The danger to you is that it can snowball and get worse endangering your health and well-being.

 

Lockdowns were themselves destructive of health and well-being of multitudes. The little-impacted, like yourself, the Covoisie, say “Awww.”

 

is requiring vaccinations for smallpox stupid? measles? polio? what other required vaccines are stupid and should be outlawed or made optional?

 

"Forcing Covid vaccinations is stupid."

The only stupid aspect of it that was stupid was that it became necessary almost immediately. Getting vaccinated to help control a pandemic should have never become a political issue....that was incredibly stupid of MAGA America and the anti-vaxxers, the antithesis of people exercising sound medical judgement, especially as it pertains to our society as a whole. If our parents and grandparents had been of that mindset when the polio vaccine was released, the iron lung business would be thriving.

 

And there was polio vaccine hesitancy but they didn't have 24 hr polarized news channels along with grifters selling hate, conspiracy theories and supplements through social media to propagate it like we do now.

 

Private employers yes.
Disagree when the government starts handing out punitive judgements.

 

None of those requirements required them to inject something into their bodies. The African American community was impacted due to vaccine hesitation within its ranks.

And the honorable thing was to resign? Tell that yo the misguided single mom with 3 kids at home who was scared of the vaccine for whatever reason.

Just quit mom. You can brag about your honor to your kids in the homeless shelter.

You guys need to listen to yourselves.

 

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

I share your perspective on this btw. I have always drawn the line at the livelihoods impacted. Most of them lower paying and blue color types who often had been spooked by misinformation.
.i said two years ago that we had a branding problem. We should have called these treatments instead of vaccines publicly. We had a misconception that vaccines were foolproof.

Marketing them better would have gone over better.

Just my two cents as someone who does marketing strategy at some level daily.

 

Nobody forgot just nobody forgot that the vaccine wasn't anything close to what was originally claimed and those dumbasses and their followers keep doubling down

 

And how many jabs have you taken? And how many times have you had Covid. They just don't work, nor do those mask or lock downs

 

Dude lay off the jabs

 

Why did this post get a dislike?

 

Well they are vaccines, and they work exactly like vaccines. The difference is the disease. In most respects it isn’t unlike a flu shot, although the Covid vaccine does have a longer lasting impact on severe illness than the flu shot.

To me what is frustrating is the lack of messaging from health agencies and various such sources not explaining why the shots will work differently. I don’t recall ever seeing any mainstream source explaining it, except for an article in the Atlantic. You would have thought experts on these issues would have known this and would have explained this to set more realistic expectations, but perhaps not. Everybody just assumed it would be like all these other childhood vaccinations you got, and I don’t recall anybody saying anything differently. I expect part of it is a paternalistic attitude, don’t make it complicated, just get the shot, but the result is expectations were probably set too high and now people are resorting to disinformation to explain the status quo.

 

Just adding that the Omicron variant and its subvariants aren't anything close to the original and earlier forms of Covid. Both the structure of the virus and the disease that it caused changed over time. While the vaccine has become less effective at preventing infection it still remained very effect at preventing severe infection and that's still a significant benefit. While this almost a year old maybe Darwinism will work in favor of Democrats.
Republican US counties saw more COVID-19 deaths

 

So, the government cannot set rules for employees?

 

You’re wrong. Health care workers, food handlers, and even farm workers require vaccinations.

We can feel bad for her but since when does the tail wag the dog? If a business says this is what you need to do in order to work for that company then you do it or look elsewhere.

You’re being dramatic.

 

In that sarcastic, loquacious way he has.