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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. BigCypressGator1981

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    “Whether you have had previous doses or a bout of Covid, we know that a booster is the best way to maintain protection against serious illness from Covid for yourself and your loved ones, so please do make the most of the offer while it is available and give yourself both protection and peace of mind for the year ahead.”

    Barclay added: “Our hardworking NHS staff and volunteers have done an incredible job getting jabs into arms, and they’re on hand to top up your immunity and keep you and your loved ones protected.”

    Nice article. I agree with it.
     
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  3. gator95

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    Glad you agree kids shouldn't get the vaccine anymore. Now just admit masks were useless and let's get to the weekend.
     
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  5. gator95

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    Yes, because all doctors aren't children. I've never been against vaccinating most adults(still not smart for 18-21 year old males to get the vaccine due to higher myocarditis risks). But vaccinating healthy kids was beyond stupid. Glad my kids never got the vax.
     
  6. AzCatFan

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    The Great Barrington doctors, which offers a nice platitude, first, protect the most vulnerable, but no practical advise on how to actually accomplish this. How do you protect the elderly in a country where 1 in 5 households are multi-generational? Ship granny off to a COVID Internment Camp? And what if Grandma was a source of free child care for the parent, allowing them to work? Do you offer COVID relief for the loss of free childcare? What about workers who deal with the more vulnerable? Do they isolate as well? And other adults with comormidities? Including parents. What are theirs options?

    Let's not also forget, the one country that tried to seek herd immunity as a policy quickly reversed course within weeks. And later, called the policy the worst public health mistake in history.
     
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  7. BigCypressGator1981

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    Wow such amazing intellect. I can't even look at you you're so bright. Have you considered your own YouTube channel? The world needs to hear your ideas.
     
  8. BigCypressGator1981

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    I agree with the article you posted that says "booster is the best way to maintain protection against serious illness from Covid for yourself and your loved ones"

    Totally agree with your article there.
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    People who abstained from mass-psychosis were summarily scrubbed from YouTube.

    Working in concert with public health and governments, media and social media platforms were restricted to panic-mongers.
     
  10. gator95

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    No idea what you are talking about. Sounds like because you can't accept that masks don't work you are trying to change the subject. Sorry, not playing that dumb game. You keep ignoring the science. I'll follow it.
     
  11. gator95

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    Yeah, boosters are so important they are stopping giving them to anyone under 50 unless they have underlying conditions LOL. I guess you forgot to mention that part...
     
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    I never understood ...

    “Due to the risk of injury and death, vaccines should only be given to people 50 and over.”
     
  13. BigCypressGator1981

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    You couldn’t play a dumb game if you tried! You’re too smart! Not like all those dumbasses who got way better grades than you and went to medical school.
     
  14. HeyItsMe

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    Genius in his own mind.
     
  15. QGator2414

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    And the kids are not taking the shot anymore as doctors are not listening to the idiot guidance from some public health official that has no clue.

    There is a reason less than 50% of 12-15 year olds in England have taken the shot. Unfortunately it is a bit over 50% for the next range of ages as early on the fear mongering worked to unnecessarily scare parents into jabbing their kids. Even so. The number of shots going in arms right now is way down. For a reason. Doctors are not listening to there idiots in public health that don’t have a clue.

    Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics
     
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  16. AzCatFan

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    The death of expertise should not be glorified. Too bad that's exactly what is happening.
     
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    Sadly, alarmingly, we found out in 2020 what ‘expertise’ actually meant.
     
  18. gator95

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    Another large study done on Myocarditis echoes what i've said for a long time.

    Using this Nordic study of 23 million For 16-24 yo males, post vax myo rates were 6 (pfizer-pfizer) to 28 (pfizer-moderna) x HIGHER than post covid. Males 12-15 had 0 post covid myo cases. Excess myo/pericarditis events in 28 days for 2 dose regimens in 16-24 yo males 80/million, pfizer-pfizer (6x post covid) 380/million, pfizer-moderna (28x) 260/million moderna-moderna (19x)



    SARS-CoV-2 Vaccination and Myocarditis in a Nordic Cohort Study of 23 Million Residents
     
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    I have a customer, around age 50 I guess - vaccinated, he allows - who’s expressed frustrations about heart problems he’s been having. He said his doctor was puzzled, at first, but now attributes these puzzling heart issues to the effects of Covid. *rolls eyes*
     
  20. AzCatFan

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    Two things. One, in the conclusion, the paper agreed with the CDC, the European Medicines Agency, and the American College of Cardiology that risks were very low, and the benefits of vaccination far outweigh the risks. Two, the paper, like others looking at myocarditis risks with vaccination, only track within 28 days, especially since all vaccination events usually occur within 7 days. This isn't always the case with cardiac events post infection. As this study shows, acute myocarditis can still occur long after initial infection, and even after full recovery. Within 28 days, the risk might be slightly higher with vaccination, but overall, risks are likely higher with infection, because there are cases of delayed cases with infection, which doesn't happen with vaccination.
     
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