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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. AzCatFan

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    Where did you get your data from? Or when was it taken? Counting excess deaths isn't easy, and the WHO found last summer that some countries' data need to be revised. Including Germany.

    Germany also has similar vaccination rates as the US. About 76% of the total population. Meaning, if there's a an outbreak of COVID in the country, about 1 out of 4 are more likely to have a severe outcome.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    Ben Marten of USMortality.com is my German source. He himself is German. And wouldn’t more and more Germans being vaccinated bring down deaths ? Especially more than two years on ? Assuming it was a virus (it’s not) is it really acting unlike the Mother of All Viruses, the so-called Spanish Flu, in that it’s lasted twice as long, to date, and is just going to keep on burning until it kills all the unvaxxed ? When is this killer plague going to knock on my door ? I’ve tried in every way possible to get antagonize it!

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  4. QGator2414

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    tilly…

    Heart attacks are up across all age groups. But the largest jump is in young adults. And while no one will question the shots. It is a clear signal that needs to be studied. I have little faith it will be done properly as yes…I believe they are covering up what they knew.

    “Since the COVID-19 pandemic began, heart attack deaths across all age groups have become more common in the U.S., according to a September 2022 study by Cedars Sinai hospital in Los Angeles.

    The age group hit the hardest? People between 25 and 44, who saw a 29.9% relative increase in heart attack deaths over the first two years of the pandemic (which means the actual number of heart attack deaths were almost 30% higher than the predicted number).”

    This does not even touch on SMI (silent myocardial infarction). Want to know the symptoms of SMI? Very much the same as what we were told you would feel after getting the shot. Fever. Aches. You know just take the shot and deal with the day or two possible of feeling like junk but not enough to go to the doctor.

    Since COVID, more young people are dying of heart attacks. Here's what we know

    There is no hiding the increase in events.
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    ^ the self-gulag has to be getting full by now
     
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  7. AzCatFan

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    Agreed there is an increase in heart incidents. But is the cause COVID or the vaccine. A recent study from Columbia noticed a lack of calcium in COVID patients that could be leading to arrhythmia, which can be deadly.

    The damage caused by inflammation during a Covid infection appears to prop these channels open, letting too much calcium leak from the cells of the heart, said Dr. Andrew Marks, a cardiologist and biophysics professor at Columbia University who co-led the study. This flood of calcium, he said, can decrease heart function and even cause fatal arrhythmias, or irregular heartbeats.
    Another study shows the even one dose of the vaccine can help prevent cardiac incidents. From the same article.

    Another new study, published Monday in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology, suggests that vaccination may protect against major cardiovascular events — like heart attacks and strokes — associated with Covid. The study analyzed data from nearly 2 million people in the National Covid Cohort Collaborative database. About 218,000 had received at least one dose of either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna mRNA vaccine, or Johnson & Johnson’s single dose vaccine. Even partial vaccination was associated with lower risk of cardiovascular events for at least six months, the researchers found.
    Follow the data. For athletes, we're not seeing an increase in incidents. For others, the rise in cardiac events is likely caused by COVID infection, and early data shows the vaccine can reduce these events. Still more research to be done, but again, the data shows today, it's better to get vaccinated.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    So there is an increase in cardiac events. So, since there is no virus, what could possibly be causing all these heart attacks in young and old alike ?
     
  9. mikemcd810

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    I'm very thankful for Too Hot. I had gone my entire life believing viruses are real. Did I learn the truth that viruses aren't real from the media? Medical journals? My doctor? My friends who are doctors? Nope. I learned the truth thanks to one exceptionally brillaint poster on a college football message board.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Quick note: doctors aren’t actually scientists. They’re more like technicians who learn more about vaccine schedules than about virology in medical school. And don’t get me started on virologists.
     
  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    Covid causes myocarditis. One more reason to take the damn vaccine.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    Which appear to cause myocarditis ...

    New evidence has emerged that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are routinely injuring the heart of all vaccine recipients, raising further questions about their safety and their role in the recent elevated levels of heart-related deaths.

    The latest evidence comes in a study from Switzerland, which found elevated troponin levels – indicating heart injury – across all vaccinated people, with 2.8% showing levels associated with subclinical myocarditis.

    The official line on elevated heart injuries and deaths, where they are acknowledged, is that they are most likely caused by the virus as a post-Covid condition rather than the vaccines.

    However, expert group HART (Health Advisory and Recovery Team) has pointed to Australia as a “control group” on this question. HART notes that even though Australia had not had significant Covid (only 30,000 reported infections and 910 deaths) prior to mid-2021, it still saw a trend in excess non-Covid deaths beginning in June 2021 (see below). HART notes that Australia “did not have prior Covid as a reason for seeing this rise in mortality and hospital pressure from spring 2021”. Instead, “the results from this control group indicate that the cause of this rise in deaths, particularly in young people, must be something in common with Australia, Europe and the USA”.

    mRNA Vaccines Injure the Heart of ALL Vaccine Recipients and Cause Myocarditis in Up to 1 in 27, Study Finds – The Daily Sceptic
     
  13. gatordavisl

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    That's a good article. I really hope you read it, as it included empirical findings and research-based interventions, including:
    • The increase in U.S. heart attack deaths continued through the omicron surge, even though the variant is thought to cause milder illness, and spikes of heart attack deaths have aligned with the timing of COVID-19 surges in the U.S.
    • As doctors and other researchers continue to wade through the data on COVID-19 and heart disease, the best course of action is to avoid infection as best you can, Cheng and Al-Aly said. To do so:
      • Wear a mask in crowded settings, and consider socializing outdoors with people outside your household.
      • Stay up to date on your vaccinations. Research shows that you're 11 times more likely to develop myocarditis from COVID itself versus the vaccine, NBC News senior medical correspondent Dr. John Torres said during a TODAY segment on Feb. 9.
    Obviously, they are following the data.
     
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  14. g8trjax

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    Just coinciditis.
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    The shot does not keep you from getting Covid. At all. Its efficacy at this point would have it pulled under any normal circumstance. Especially after the 8 mice failed to find the safety signal for 65 and older no less…

    Another reason to halt the shots immediately. Among all age groups.
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    They are not asking all the questions. They are ignoring a big one. Which I addressed….
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    Article indicates that since mass-panic heart attacks have increased in young and old alike.
     
  18. BigCypressGator1981

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  19. duggers_dad

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    Who needs mice when you can try it out on humans ?
     
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  20. Swamplizard

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    It does? where is your proof?