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What is my level Phil?

These shots should have never been authorized for kids. You can disagree with that. But it has become crystal clear that is the case and science as been ignored to push these shots on groups that don’t need them.

 

I didn't say anything about your level. But since you asked for my input:
You consistently to fail to provide data supporting your opinions, despite constantly declaring they are based on data. The few times you produce data, it becomes painfully clear that either you didn't take the time to read what you posted, or you lack the skills to interpret the data. Yet you are adamantly convinced that you are correct and the many trained statisticians pointing out the errors in your attempts to support your opinions are the ones who don't know what they are talking about.

 

I know we likely disagree. But please if you think science/medicine/data…support ever authorizing these shots to kids made sense. We will struggle to get to an agreement. And just because we disagree there…”my level”?

Come on man!

 

Reading comprehension check. Where did I type anything about your level prior to you asking me to comment on it?

 

He wrote "this level". Good lord mr. persecution complex!

 

“His prideful ignorance doesn’t require you to sink to this level.”

That is a clear implication of my level. Reading comprehension…

You keep out the shot at me. I would concede the point. But you did not.

 

The data says you are wrong. Filter for ages 12-17, and the unvaccinated population has a higher death rate per 100,000 then the vaccinated. It's the smallest death rate for all groups, yes, but still, the evidence is clear that per 100,000 unvaccinated, there will be more COVID deaths as compared to a 100,000 vaccinated in the 12-17 year old age range.

You can argue that 11 and below, there is no need for the shot. And it's hard to find data that shows lower hospitalization and death rates consistently for unvaccinated versus vaccinated in this age range. It's why there are countries that do no recommend the shot for 11 and under. But look at any chart 12 and older, and the vaccine saved and saves lives. And why all countries recommend it for this age group.

I've asked it before, and I'll ask it again. Even if the risk is lower, why not lower it even further with the vaccine?

 

These shots never should have seen the arm in any normal medical circumstance. But they got you for sure!

 

But isn't it really the perfect microcosm of his posts in this thread. So fully convinced he understands the topic, but so completely misses it. And that arrogance keeps him from learning.

 

Yes. But in doing so he took a shot at me implying it was my level…

 

Holy hell. You still don't understand that @philnotfil did not allude to anything regarding your level? Wake up! Your anti-vax funk has you completely blinded to truth or anything resembling discernment.

 

The data disagrees with you. I'll follow the scientific data and models over anyone, including you. Now, if you have actual data, from peer reviewed scientific journals that actually support your opinion, I will be happy to read the paper and look at the data. But I know you don't have any. You have nothing but your unsubstantiated opinion.

Meanwhile, the data shows lower death and hospitalization rates among the 12-17 YO cohort, per 100,000. In other words, the vaccine lowers the risk. And why wouldn't we want to lower the risk of hospitalization and death, especially in kids under 18?

 

just to reiterate - you are SO bad at this.

 

You can’t understand he took a shot at me when doing so. Therefore implying my level is somehow below some great virtue level some of you have? But yes. You are clearly above others…

 

You do what you do.

It does not change the fact these shots would have never been approved before 2021 using basic medicine and science for kids. It is evil what they did. If you want to keep pumping shots in your kids and grandkids. Go for it. But people need to be held accountable for authorizing these things to young healthy people. It should have never happened.

 

And to reiterate…you are really good at contributing nothing.

Sad.

 

I feel qualified to determine who shots were fired at, being the person who typed the words. You can't understand that I didn't take a shot at you because of your self-centered arrogance. It really isn't all about you. I was taking a shot at Cypress when I typed those words.

 

you are the evil one and you know it. Sad.