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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. 92gator

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    You didn't claim 'there is no covid'?

    Huh....guess my 'reply' feature must have accidentally embeded that claim into your post to which I replied.

    Stupid machine...let me wack it on the side, see if that fixes it....
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    No, you were right the first time. I do not believe that viruses exist.

    2020ff was/is a panic-induced PCR-based pseudo-epidemic with massive reclassification of deaths.
     
  3. 92gator

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    Perhaps not...but there seem to be quite a few (million) coindinces of people displaying symptoms of covid going on and ...dying...and people with those same conditions who were vaxxed...not dying....

    Guess I'm kinda a patterns guy. Anecdotal, I know, but like I said above--that's my starting point, and I don't bother going beyond that, unless there's compelling reason to.
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    Ascertainment Bias AKA power of suggestion ?

    In 2020 the world focused, as never before, on every sniffle, cough and fever.

    And if you drove your car into a tree, and were airlifted to a hospital, and testing positive before you succumbed to your injuries ... you died of Covid.
     
  5. 92gator

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    Um hum...well...

    Do keep on with your crusade to convince the world that viruses don't exist. I'm not judging. In fact, as I've mentioned to you on more than one occasion, I do enjoy your posting. I mean that sincerely. fwiw.
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    And I appreciate your kind consideration.
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    I enjoy his posting too. Good fiction is very entertaining.
     
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  8. tilly

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    First post of this thread:
    Little did you guys know I hit it big by predicting the following six legged parlay just before Vegas locked down:

    - Kids begging to go back to school
    - Empty Stadiums
    - Bleach injections
    - Grave dancing
    - Worldometer
    - Viruses aren't real
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    Bleach vaccines would arguably been safer.
     
  10. mikemcd810

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    The vaccine couldn't have killed anyone because the vaccine doesn't exist - it was just a placebo shot.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    A fictitious vaccine would have been a better treatment for a fictitious pathogen.
     
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  14. gator95

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    Are we going to have the posters who thought that the vaccine was better than Natural Immunity come on here and say they were wrong for 2+ years? We all know the answer to this.
     
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  15. AzCatFan

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    NI has proven to be better than vaccine immunity, per several studies. Hybrid immunity has also been proven to be better than just NI, and you can't get hybrid immunity without the vaccine.

    Originally, when the first studies out of Manaus, Brazil came out, it looked like NI wasn't very strong. But it later came out that the studies out of Manaus were fatally flawed, and the initial Manaus studies were pulled. But as of right now, all studies show hybrid > NI > vaccine only > no immunity.
     
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  16. gator95

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    See, people are trying revisionist history. I and others were posting that NI is better than having the vaccine. It's been proven and was correct from day 1. Some just continue have their heads in the sand.
     
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  17. AzCatFan

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    Revisionist history is changing the story after the fact. I have changed my opinion on NI versus vaccine, but only based on the data present at the time. And again, the original data out of Brazil was showing serious problems with NI. Later, this data proved to be flawed, and following studies showed NI to be superior to vaccine immunity. Studies also show hybrid immunity to be best.

    I'm not changing my story after the fact. I'm changing my story as new facts are presented, and following what the data is telling me. I was wrong about vaccine immunity being superior, and that was again, based on now what we know to be faulty data coming out of Brazil.
     
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  18. gator95

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    I'll just leave this here. Notice the date. Some people are too obtuse to have a rational conversation with. Hell, the CDC still recommends vaxxing teen boys. That is beyond stupid and frankly dangerous. But that's ok, my kids didn't take it and have NI. That is all I can control.

    Previous Covid Prevents Delta Infection Better Than Pfizer Shot
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    I'll put this here. COVID-19: Is Manaus the Final Coffin for Natural Herd Immunity. Notice the date. Four months prior to your link!
     
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  20. VAg8r1

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    The article is from August 2021. Omicron and subvariants have been the dominant strains of Covid since January 2022 and possibly earlier and even if accurate the logical or rather illogical conclusion from your post is that one who has had never experienced a Covid infection should expose himself/herself to the virus for the purpose of developing natural immunity rather than taking the vax.

    FYI regarding young males:
    Benefits of COVID-19 Vaccination Outweigh the Rare Risk of Myocarditis, Even in Young Males - Dallas Examiner
    Cardiologists interviewed for this story told us based on their experiences with patients, vaccine-associated myocarditis appears to be less frequent and severe than myocarditis following SARS-CoV-2 infection in adults, young adults and children. They said patients arriving to the hospital with heart inflammation after an infection often get admitted in the intensive care unit and need advanced therapies to rescue them, including an extracorporeal membrane oxygenation machine, a life support machine that takes over for a person’s heart and lungs.

    “Post COVID-vaccination myocarditis, which has been shown to be less severe … typically does not require treatment and it runs its course. And does not require any other therapies other than just supportive care,” Dr. Joyce W. Wald, a cardiologist, medical director of the shock team and director of heart failure, transplant and mechanical circulatory support program at the University of Pennsylvania Health System, told us in an interview.
     
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