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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. QGator2414

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  2. flgator2

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    Booster Shots May Trigger Stroke Incidents, According to CDC and FDA (theepochtimes.com)
    • An increased risk of stroke events has been identified with the Pfizer COVID-19 bivalent vaccine, according to a joint statement from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
    • The onset time in people aged 65 years and older was 1–21 days after the booster, with a significant cluster of events observed 11–21 days after the booster.
    • Sixty-four percent had received the flu vaccine on the same day as the COVID-19 booster.
    • The bivalent booster contains the code of the spike protein, contributing to the increased risk of blood clots. High-risk people should avoid the boosters.
    The statement read, in part: “CDC’s Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD), a near real-time surveillance system, met the statistical criteria to prompt additional investigation into whether there was a safety concern for ischemic stroke in people ages 65 and older who received the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine bivalent.”
     
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  3. ncargat1

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    1. Not Bivalent Booster - the Pfizer shot only. There has been no signal in those receiving the Moderna shot - which makes this dubious from the start since the Moderna shot is more reactive.

    2. There is no definitive increased risk of anything. The US monitoring system and data collection exceeded the threshold for an investigation, and the CDC and FDA are investigating. Strangely, there are NO reports of increased stroke risk in any other country than the United States.

    3. You can say the exact same thing about pulmonary embolisms, there is no proven increased risk.

    4. The CDC and FDA guidance on boosters remains unchanged and it is recommended for all adults.

    I don't know what the Epoch Times is, but it is clearly written by someone at the Ministry of Propaganda within the Department of Keep People Brainwashed.

    CDC Investigating Potential—But 'Unlikely'—Link Between Pfizer Booster and Stroke Risk
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    Deaths exploding in highly vaccinated Germany ...

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  5. QGator2414

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    The don’t want to ask the questions. Our approach to Cardiovascular Disease is antiquated. And that is preCovid. Doctors are trained to plug numbers into a formula to give them a FRS Score (Framingham Risk Score). That score is beyond useless with the information we know today about heart disease and the tests available.

    Reality is most people who have a heart attack don’t have “blockage” that is even considered for invasive treatment. And also now they are starting to estimate SMI (silent myocardial infarction) could be over half of the heart attacks that are happening. And it makes sense when you dive in to the amazing information we have now.

    These shots need to be stopped immediately. For multiple reasons. I don’t think it was criminal to have pushed these shots for high risk groups in the beginning. But it is clear that it was criminal to push these shots on low risk groups from the beginning.

    Unfortunately I don’t think people will be held accountable for the evil and wrong they have inflicted and there is a reason little effort is being made to find answers…
     
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  6. Tjgators

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    25 year old Belgian goalie died suddenly yesterday after saving a goal. 25. it's a daily event for athletes.
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    Daily event for athletes? Do tell?
     
  9. tilly

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    In that link, Rancourt's twitter bio has a book on the shelf behind him by Ward Churchill. A known fraud.

    He fired from a nearly two decade post at university of Colorado-Boulder:
    Churchill had engaged in "serious research misconduct", including falsification, fabrication, and two of the three allegations of plagiarism.
     
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  10. l_boy

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    Since COVID, more young people are dying of heart attacks. Here's what we know

    People between 25 and 44, who saw a 29.9% relative increase in heart attack deaths over the first two years of the pandemic (which means the actual number of heart attack deaths were almost 30% higher than the predicted number).

    The increase in U.S. heart attack deaths continued through the omicron surge, even though the variant is thought to cause milder illness, and spikes of heart attack deaths have aligned with the timing of COVID-19 surges in the U.S.

    For COVID-19 survivors, the risk of developing a heart condition even a year after the infection, regardless of how severe the initial symptoms were, is "substantial," according to a February 2022 study of more than 150,000 individuals with COVID-19. The risk increases even for people who don't have any other risk factors for heart disease.

    Dr. Ziyad Al-Aly, a physician-scientist at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis and co-author of the study, estimated that about 4% of people who have COVID-19 will develop a heart problem, such as irregular heartbeat, heart failure, inflammation or heart attacks.
     
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  11. QGator2414

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    You are not allowed to even ask the question. Go take your shots and boosters now. Even if your risk is basically zero…
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    You're allowed to ask the question. All good science allows for questions. But you must also be prepared for any answer. And that answer is no, athletes aren't dying at a faster rate since the vaccine.

    Ask all questions. Any you want, please. But please also accept the answer the data is showing you.
     
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  13. HeyItsMe

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    Please read the following and educate yourself. The fallacy that athletes and people in general are dying left and right from the Covid vaccine is complete nonsense and completely fictitious. We don’t even know their vaccine status for starters, and they could well be unvaccinated for all anyone knows. Also, myocarditis is a commonly known side effect of those who have contracted the virus previously, but it’s easy and lazy to blame it on the vaccine when you’re looking for an agenda.

    Claims baselessly link COVID vaccines to athlete deaths
     
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  14. l_boy

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    From that article:

    The National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research, which systematically tracks sports-related fatalities, identified 13 medical deaths during football-related activities in 2021 among players participating at all levels of competition, eight of which were caused by cardiac arrest. The same researchers had found 14 medical deaths two years earlier, 10 of which were heart-related. These incidents remain tragic and scarce.

     
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  15. QGator2414

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    LOL!!!

    No. We are not allowed to ask the questions (of course we can but accountability will sadly not happen). But you keep listening to the minority who have controlled you with their propaganda.

    No one should take one of these shots today. And thankfully most people understand this. Unfortunately a few like you still push these things on people for no reason.
     
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  16. AzCatFan

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    Ask away. Always. But please accept the data presented to you as the facts they are. If you can't accept the facts and data, then why are you asking the questions?

    I'm not the one falling for propaganda. I'm accepting the data and facts, and basing my mind on those. Can you say the same? No. Because you have no facts and data to back up your claims.

    I'm happy to try and answer any and all questions. Are you prepared to accept the data, regardless of what it shows?
     
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  17. QGator2414

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    When we actually start diving deep for answers…is when questions are allowed. You keep ignoring the signals and allow the few idiots in charge to keep pushing unnecessary shots. The good news is not many are listening to them anymore. The lies and bad medicine/science crossed the line. The bad news is we don’t have a credible place to get good information right now.
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    I hope you don’t have a book by
    Winston Churchill in your library. His Hunger Blockade may have killed almost as many as the vaccines and he was arguably the primary belligerent in both catastrophic world wars.
     
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    Since there are no viruses, what’s causing all those heart problems in the 25-44 demographic ?
     
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    And we have our brilliant CDC director ignoring Science to keep masking kids in schools. I would laugh if it wasn't so awful to do to kids. This is the problem I and many others have. Absolutely no admission of how wrong they were. And what is worse is they will try to shut down schools again and mask kids again the next time something similar happens. Even in the face of evidence showing masks and school closures don't work. Just next level stupid.

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