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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

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    Well, again, no. Ukrainians are dying because your Leader rolls his tanks and shoots his missiles into Ukraine. Russia did this, and none of your twisted rationale can change this one, basic, undeniable and incontrovertible truism.
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    Let me guess: you were spitting nails when your (then) leader rolled its tanks into Iraq, on entirely false pretenses, and killed 100,000 civilians in the process ?
     
  3. uftaipan

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    I don’t have any problem with that.
     
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  4. VAg8r1

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    Depends how you define "taking over". While I don't think Putin intended to annex Ukraine in its entirety I am absolutely certain that his goal was to have Russian troops march into Kyiv and replace Zelenskyy with a Russian puppet a Ukrainian equivalent of Aleksandr Lukashenko Putin's puppet in Belarus and it's very likely that he would have formally incorporated the "Republics" of Donetsk and Luhansk into Russia along with Crimea.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    What is the basis for this certainty ?
     
  6. VAg8r1

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  7. duggers_dad

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    So Russia was going to take over a city of four million with 30k troops ?
     
  8. ajoseph

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    Gaslighting, as usual. But to answer your question, I certainly didn’t blame China or Russian for killing Iraqi soldiers.
     
  9. duggers_dad

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    Or how about the way US sanctions have been strangling ordinary Syrians, for years, and are currently impeding earthquake aid ? You must wake up angry every day about things like this.
     
  10. ajoseph

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    Yep. I guess you can’t help yourself evading the point and painting another issue.

    So, I’ll say it again so it’s not lost in your gaslighting.

    Ukrainians are dying because your Leader rolls his tanks and shoots his missiles into Ukraine. Russia did this, and none of your twisted rationale can change this one, basic, undeniable and incontrovertible truism.
     
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  11. duggers_dad

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    Your leaders have undertaken almost 400 military interventions since 1776, with half of these operations undertaken between 1950 and 2019. Over 25% of them have occurred in the post-Cold War period.

    Russia vainly trying to catch up ...
     
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  12. ajoseph

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    Thank you. After 14,672 posts, we can finally be free of your nonsense about how the US is killing Ukrainians, since you FINALLY CONCEDE your Putin is responsible for the murders.
     
  13. duggers_dad

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    Arguably, war is mass-murder. But Putin hasn’t a prayer of catching up.
     
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  14. GatorJMDZ

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    "Your" leaders?

    Russia has retired the trophy on invading neighbors without legal justification. Putin just picked the wrong one this time which is why his troops are being annihilated and his army, navy and air force are largely viewed as being inept. If Russia had not been committing war crimes against the Ukrainian civil population on a massive scale, this special operation would be over and Putin either dead or in exile.
     
  15. duggers_dad

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    Yes, your leaders. They can’t be my leaders since this thread says Putin is my leader. So I’m content to compare my leader with your leaders.

    So you’re saying Putin didn’t go in with civilian-slaughtering ‘Shock and Awe’ like the US ?
     
  16. tampagtr

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    First I've hear of this atrocity. Blood boiling

     
  17. uftaipan

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  18. Gatorhead

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    Always good to know who the commie / Kremlin / totalitarian sympathizers are on this board.
     
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    Russian Bot, which I assume you have figured out.
    The "block" feature works real good on this Putin lovin you no what!
     
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  20. duggers_dad

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    Do you people realize that all this name-calling isn’t helping the Ukrainians one bit ? Ukraine is dying.