Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Long since stopped monitoring this thread as the wall is too hard to keep beating my head against but saw this and found it interesting if it hasn’t been previously posted.

 

Absolutely they do. They have from the beginning.

Shoot most only need Tylenol and Ibuprofen if even that. Let alone the antivirals prescribed by a doctor.

 

Link to the actual study for those who are interested:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2101765

BACKGROUND
As mass vaccination campaigns against coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19) commence worldwide, vaccine effectiveness needs to be assessed for a range of outcomes across diverse populations in a noncontrolled setting. In this study, data from Israel’s largest health care organization were used to evaluate the effectiveness of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine.

METHODS
All persons who were newly vaccinated during the period from December 20, 2020, to February 1, 2021, were matched to unvaccinated controls in a 1:1 ratio according to demographic and clinical characteristics. Study outcomes included documented infection with the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), symptomatic Covid-19, Covid-19–related hospitalization, severe illness, and death. We estimated vaccine effectiveness for each outcome as one minus the risk ratio, using the Kaplan–Meier estimator.

RESULTS
Each study group included 596,618 persons. Estimated vaccine effectiveness for the study outcomes at days 14 through 20 after the first dose and at 7 or more days after the second dose was as follows: for documented infection, 46% (95% confidence interval [CI], 40 to 51) and 92% (95% CI, 88 to 95); for symptomatic Covid-19, 57% (95% CI, 50 to 63) and 94% (95% CI, 87 to 98); for hospitalization, 74% (95% CI, 56 to 86) and 87% (95% CI, 55 to 100); and for severe disease, 62% (95% CI, 39 to 80) and 92% (95% CI, 75 to 100), respectively. Estimated effectiveness in preventing death from Covid-19 was 72% (95% CI, 19 to 100) for days 14 through 20 after the first dose. Estimated effectiveness in specific subpopulations assessed for documented infection and symptomatic Covid-19 was consistent across age groups, with potentially slightly lower effectiveness in persons with multiple coexisting conditions.

CONCLUSIONS
This study in a nationwide mass vaccination setting suggests that the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine is effective for a wide range of Covid-19–related outcomes, a finding consistent with that of the randomized trial.

 

Signed Confessions from 212 (and counting) government agencies and health departments that the virus doesn’t exist ...

FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (212 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever – Fluoride Free Peel

 

If it escaped from a lab, how did that happen ? Did someone leave the back door open after Uber Eats delivered ?

If it was a bioweapon, what piss poor weapon is said to have killed the frail elderly primarily ?

It’s just a misdirect for the lack of any evidence of virus and it just keeps the fear narrative alive.

2020ff, like perhaps no other period in our lifetimes, starkly illustrates how depressingly easy it is to frighten people into herds.

 

All I want to know is, since when is it even legal to work on gain of function on deadly pathogens?

 

They would probably have you believe they’re tinkering with viruses, to make them more virulent, so as to learn how to control deadlier virus.

Of course the problem is that you have to have a virus to begin with.

I believe the reason lab leak is so captivating because we know that toxins are deadlier than viruses are believed to be. They kill directly and in short order.

But if you can concoct something like a toxin which spreads from person to person ...

 

And here is the answer to my own question.

Why the government is creating lethal viruses | CNN

 

Yeah I have mixed feelings about this. I understand the theoretical benefits of doing so, but at the same time people are people and the incompetence of any particular individual can never be underestimated.

Whatever we do or don’t do probably has no bearing on what countries like China and Russia do, so there is that. Do we want to be in the game, or just leave it to them and hope for the best?

 

Exactly, it even mentions an Anthrax leak at the CDC that infected several people. And I haven't seen and need to make these deadlier strains of pathogens, either.

 

Lab Leaks and other Legends - Dr Sam Bailey

 

The flip side example is the thread of the H5N1 bird flu out there. As is it is highly lethal. If it jumps to humans, or perhaps we should say when, there is the possibility that it makes Covid look like a walk in the park. If you could engineer it and create vaccines ahead of time you could perhaps reduce the harmful impact.

 

I need to read up on that, haven't seen any article on it yet.

Here's a blurb on it.


https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-02-06/nepal-detects-h5n1-bird-flu-on-farm-woah-says

 

NOCA Demanding Evidence That Bird Flu Has Been Proven To Exist

 

Experts Fear Bird Flu Outbreak Could Turn Into New Pandemic

 

As with anything, it is legal until a government makes it not.

 

Offensive side vaccinates itself, spreads virus and waits

 

That’s a pretty dangerous strategy and Covid proves that. For fast incubating and mutating diseases like coronaviruses and flu you practically can’t stop spread, you can only slow it and reduce the worst impacts.

 

Why do you equate gain-of-function with more deadly?

 

Gain Of Function Research – As Fake As The Virus!