Paul Pelosi bodycam footage to be released

Anyone with half a brain should see this is the likely reason for that glass. But some here will insist that he was having a gin an tonic at 5 in the morning.

 

People like him should not be given an opportunity to air such comments. He is actively recruiting more nut jobs to go do what he did.

 

What is ridiculous is that you think that Big 10 Wrestlers were abused by that doctor

 

For anyone who hasn't read about the sexual abuse perpertrated over the course of 20 years at OSU, with the knowledge of administrators at the university as early as the second year of alleged abuse:

Ohio State University abuse scandal - Wikipedia

 

What is ridiculous is that you think the abuse is in question. It isn't. The question is what Jordan knew and did and didn't do about it. And that isn't really a question for most people who aren't blinded by politics.

 

Is your argument that wrestlers couldn't have possibly been sexually abused because they could have beat up the doctor? If so, that's a horrible take. Not to mention that he was accused of doing it to high school boys as well.

 

Not trying to get into this argument but if you think for one second that at least one of the high school or college athletes wouldn't have stood up to an adult of authority you are wrong. We had a high school QB on our football team kicked out of school for beating the crap out of a coach that verbally abused him. It doesn't happen often but I can't imagine at least one athlete not standing up against someone sexually abusing him or others.

 

What is even more ridiculous is that you fail to understand why college wrestlers would submit to a doctor who told them that the abuse was part of their medical treatment (conceding that what he most likely told them is speculation, it's a reasonable assumption). Although they may not have been able to physically resist like the wrestlers it's not all that different from the female gymnasts who were abused by Dr. Larry Nasser. In both cases the abuser was a medical professional in a position of authority.

 

I think you just inadvertently nailed the reason why most kids don't stand up to authority.

How many kids do you think that coach verbally abused before one kid stood up to him? I notice you didn't say anything happened to the coach, either, but the kid was expelled...

 

I've mentioned the story before of Terry Crews getting groped by a Hollywood big wig. He didn't deck him because he was in shock, didn't know how to respond, felt humiliated, etc. The guy also had more power over Crews despite Crews being relatively established in his career and well into his adulthood. That was a one-time event, but these things can also happen over time. How did Dr. Nassar get away with sexually abusing U.S. girls and women gymnasts for so long? These doctors are not jumping out from the bushes and attacking their patients. It's not a fist fight. To say it couldn't happen because athletes were physically stronger misses the point. It does happen and these guys can get away with it for a long time before getting caught. Dennis Hastert did it for years, too, with HS wrestlers.

These doctors were for the most part accused of using their positions of power and using otherwise legitimate medical exams to fondle patients under the guise of medical treatment. Medical professionals are in a unique position to do this stuff in a way that doesn't apply to other professions. It's literally the one group of professionals that needs to touch their clients, and many times the patient is at least partially undressed. There are even valid times where otherwise private areas may be examined but in a certain way. I can absolutely see how a patient could be uncomfortable and questioning certain "tests" but unsure of whether to actually accuse a doctor of something so heinous. It's not like a history teacher or accountant putting their hands down the pants of a student or young client.

I also think many predators who sexually abuse kids or young adults probably test the waters a bit and to identify the victims who might cause the most trouble or might be the most likely to speak out immediately.

 

That is complete crap. There is no way that he would do that for that long and not having someone take him to the woodshed. We had a friend of an assistant coach in high school who had to be “rescued” by the coach because he was about to get seriously hurt. As it was he had several cuts to the head and was beat up pretty good.

 

Righties have now delved into defending monsters who sexually abuse underaged children. Such a shameful contingent of people.

 

I could be wrong but I just can’t see Charley Pell, Norm Sloan, Jay Bergman, or Randy Reese not personally taken care of the situation themselves if it was at UF in the late 70’s and early 80’s. Would have easily been explained away Petrino style. Pell or Sloan would have probably made the doctor resign just by staring at him.

 

FYI

Athletics Department officials knew that Strauss conducted unusually prolonged genital examinations on male athletes, and that athletics staff were not permitted to be present during these examinations. In addition, Strauss was known to shower alongside male students at Larkins Hall, a behavior which was unique to Strauss among team physicians.[2]: 2  Between 1979 and 1996, multiple students complained about Strauss's excessive and unnecessary genital examinations, but no action was taken by OSU until January 1996, when he was placed on administrative leave in response to patient complaints.[2]: 2–3 ​

In July 2018, several former wrestlers accused former head coach Russ Hellickson and U.S. representative Jim Jordan, who was an assistant coach at OSU between 1987 and 1994, of knowing about Strauss' alleged abuse but failing to take action to stop it. Jordan has denied that he had any student-athlete report sexual abuse to him.

The report, released in May 2019, concluded that Strauss abused at least 177 male student-patients and that OSU was aware of the abuse as early as 1979, but the abuse was not widely known outside of Athletics or Student Health until 1996, when he was suspended from his duties. Strauss continued to abuse OSU students at an off-campus clinic until his retirement from the university in 1998. OSU was faulted in the report for failing to report Strauss's conduct to law enforcement.

In May 2020, the university entered into a settlement and agreed to pay $40.9 million to the sexual abuse survivors.[1]​

Ohio State University abuse scandal - Wikipedia

Just one question. If it's complete crap why did the university agree to a $40.9 million settlement? Once again the situation sounds remarkabley similar to that of Larry Nassar and the female gymnasts. In both cases the perpetrator was a medical professional in a position of authority.

 

And yet, this sort of thing happened all over. Paterno had an assistant assaulting children for decades. And these folks doing this were very rarely assaulted because very few people talked about what they did for a variety of reasons.

 

I have my doubts. But if true this is on each and every one of those 177 males who didn’t beat the shit out of this doctor. Just like the former QB/assistant coach who saw Sanduski in the shower with that boy. There is no way that Sandusky should have left that building any other way than on a stretcher.

 

If people aren’t willing to stand up for themselves, or for female athletes, or for children that says as much about them as it does the perps.

 

And the predators rely on those willing to not believe the victims to hide their twenty years of abuse.

If you find yourself defending a sexual abuser, you can stop.

 

Does that include an assistant coach who chose to look the other way even though he almost certainly had knowledge of an ongoing pattern of abuse?

 

Absolutely, if true. But all we have is suspiciously timed hearsay accusations. If his name is in any of the reports filed and taken at the time, yes.