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Crime has increased since San Francisco recalled its progressive prosecutor

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_lawyer, Jan 25, 2023.

  1. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    In July 2022, San Francisco recalled its progressive prosecutor Chesa Boudin. We were told that Boudin's policies were allowing crime to run rampant, despite crime data not reflecting that reality. The media ran constant copaganda attacking him to assist with the recall efforts.

    Since Boudin's recall, property crime is up about 14% and violent crime is up about 8% when compared to Boudin's time in office. Source:



    You'd think the media would be running a bunch of stories about the rise in crime, yet I'm not seeing much on it. I guess there's no incentive when the top prosecutor's policies are pretty much in line with the ineffective, antiquated law-and-order policies used by most other prosecutors in this country (for years and years).
     
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  2. ATLGATORFAN

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    Love it. ‘Antiquated law and order ‘
     
  3. exiledgator

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    To be fair to the poster, you dropped a pretty important word there.
     
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  4. tampagtr

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    It was never about crime. It’s always about social control. The homelessness problem is viewed as a criminal justice problem.

    He did seem a bit insensitive to anti-Asian attacks, plus Walgreens mounted their big corporate fiction to hide their downsizing that they were being ravaged by shoplifting, and a lot of big right wing money got behind the recall because out of control crime pushes a lot of buttons that get their voters out.

    But it’s always about keeping social control over the hierarchy, and keeping those who are perceived to have a place to stay in their place
     
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  5. ATLGATORFAN

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    Fair enough. Expanded ….”
    when the top prosecutor's policies are pretty much in line with the ineffective, antiquated law-and-order policies used by most otherprosecutors in this country (for years and years).”

    I disagree completely but applaud his transparency on stating and not
    Obfuscating “Ineffective antiquated law and order “
     
  6. G8R92

    G8R92 GC Hall of Fame

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    So comparing 6 months of data to almost 3 years is a fair statistical analysis? On average, how long does it take from arrest to trial to sentencing?
     
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  7. wgbgator

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    Crime had lowered statistically and they removed the last guy, do you think that really matters?
     
  8. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Nothing spooks rich libs into reactionary positions like a 'crime wave' too
     
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  9. BLING

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    Seems your reading comprehension still fails, despite the expanded quote. The word you originally dropped is key to the statement. What is antiquated? The policies. You changed the interpretation to suggest the concept of having “law and order” is antiquated, as if the previous DA was for lawlessness/anarchy.

    In most cases taking hard criminal lines against drugs and homelessness ARE antiquated policies. These are largely people who need mental health and addiction services, a long term fix (even just for some of them) not short term incarceration for petty crimes. The “war on drugs” is arguably this country’s biggest failure, worse than Vietnam and Iraq combined.
     
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  10. littlebluelw

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    WFC? It’s San Francisco.
     
  11. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Well, they arent 'antiquated' in the sense that they are pretty much the active and state preferred policies almost everywhere in the USA :)
     
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  12. VAg8r1

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    Maybe somewhat off-topic, this also comes to mind. A common theme among the right and even Walgreens itself was that the company was closing stores in San Francisco as the result of highly publicized smash and grab crimes attributable to Boudin's policies.
    Walgreens Executive Says Shoplifting Threat Was Overstated
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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    Updating again because this is hilarious. SF replaced its progressive prosecutor with a tough-on-crime type, and violent crime has gone UP! In fact, unlike San Francisco, other major cities in California saw their violent crime drop. Criminal justice reform is effective policy.
     
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  14. wgbgator

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    Presumably visible homelessness has dropped though, which was their only metric
     
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  15. sierragator

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    San Francisco: a favorite whipping boy for rw media everywhere, or is that Chicago?
     
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  16. l_boy

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    So I homeless sleeping and living on the streets, feces and pee everywhere, open air drug markets, and non prosecution of petty crimes….all that never existed?

    Good to know.
     
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  17. Emmitto

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    Well SF is The Gay One. Chicago is The Black One. Totally different dog whistles.
     
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  18. gator_lawyer

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    Outside of people defecating on sidewalks, you're talking about shit that happens in every major city.
     
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  19. BLING

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    …and non-major city, and subburbs. It just isn’t as noticeable because they are more spread out or camping in the woods rather than concentrated in city parks. But you still see them wandering/biking around.
     
  20. wgbgator

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    This happens because public bathrooms are barely a thing anymore anywhere (and they tend to lock them at night where they do exist) and businesses certainly don’t welcome them in to use the facilities. It’s the outcome of deliberate policy choices.
     
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