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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    How can heart problems arise from a non-existent pathogen ? There are only three possibilities: (1) heart problem discovered after testing for fake virus (2) heart problem exacerbated by severe psychological stress stemming from pan-panic (3) heart problem arising from vaccine.
     
  2. philnotfil

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    How messed up do you have to be to mark a post about the terrible damage caused by the virus with a funny rating?
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    Not messed up at all. You know the laughs are not about how terrible the virus was. They are about the misdirection to ignore real and current safety signals.
     
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  4. VAg8r1

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    Just a comment regarding the ratings of "funny". Maybe it's just me but I fail to see the humor an increased incidence of cardiovascular risks resulting from a Covid infection. I would add however that the data were complied when the dominant strains of Covid (the original and the Delta variant) were more virulent than the now dominant Omicron variant and its subvariants which while much more transmissible and also less virulent.
     
  5. duggers_dad

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    Me ? I don’t think people dropping dead with heart attacks from vaccines is funny.
     
  6. QGator2414

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    I fail to understand why you won’t even ask the question of whether the shot has caused SMI. It is not funny at all that we have increased events. But to not press for answers shows how disingenuous you are.

    We need to know. Is it Covid? Is it the shot? Is it Covid and the shot? Is it the lockdowns? Etc?
     
  7. AzCatFan

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    Asking the question is valid. But you also must accept the data. And if that data doesn't give you the answer you want, it isn't because you're right and the data is wrong. And to date, the data shows no increase in expected long term cardiac events or deaths caused by the vaccine.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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  9. AzCatFan

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    For those actually interested in evidence and facts, here's a link that contains multiple links showing no connection between the mRNA vaccines and increased cardiac issues in both athletes and the general public.

    Asking questions is good science. Only accepting answers that fit your preconceived notions? Not good science.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Of course there’s no connection. Owing to sunk costs, correlation only goes one way. Maybe some day some intrepid researcher will code vaccine deaths the way they coded ‘Covid’ deaths.
     
  11. l_boy

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    I don’t know for sure that the latest sub variants are in fact less virulent. The difference now is almost everybody has some sort of natural or vaccine immunity, or both. I recall a study while back that concluded the original omicron strains were not less virulent.

    I agree, people that laugh at stuff like this are just really awful people.
     
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  12. QGator2414

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    We have not run the trials to know. And it is imperative for everyone. Whether they decided to take zero/one/two/three/four/etc shots…

    At this point we know seroprevalence says just about everyone has had it. I am sure there are a few that have not. But…

    It is infuriating that doctors are having to do their job blind with no support to understand why the increase in cardiac events…
     
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  13. QGator2414

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    Good science is to actually look and see if SMI has happened. And while we pushed these shots on everyone instead of just those in real danger it can be done. But they won’t imo…

    I hope I am wrong! As if these shots do cause the inflammation for a SMI event…people and their doctors need to know as they move on to provide proper care.
     
  14. AzCatFan

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    We don't need trials. We have actual, full world data. Hundred of millions, if not billions of jabs given. Each one tracked. And countries like Great Britain that tracked all deaths in the country and compared it with prior years. What trial could anyone produce that could produce better data than what we're already tracking?

    The data is there. You don't like what it says. That's not a data issue. That's a bias issue on your part.
     
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  15. BigCypressGator1981

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    I’ve got good news for you.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Scott Adams finally gives up the ghost ...

     
  17. QGator2414

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    No the data is not there. You want to ignore the safety signals.
     
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  18. BigCypressGator1981

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    your understanding of simple statistics, mathematics and science is not there. Now hit us with some more buzzwords.
     
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  19. QGator2414

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    Your blindness to the data and real safety signals is clear. Propaganda is powerful and dangerous.
     
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  20. BigCypressGator1981

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    “Data”, “safety signals” and “propaganda” in a two sentence post. Not bad. But I think you could have thrown in a “generational damage” if you really wanted to bring it home.
     
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