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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Thanks to the never-ending panic sown by Covidian poison-peddlers more will die.
     
  2. QGator2414

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    It does not need to be superior to hybrid. It provides sufficient protection. Better than the shot(s). And it has been ignored by the people pushing policy. Causing generational damage to public health.

    We know myocarditis. We see the young athletes at levels never seen having issue. We need to ask the questions. Why. Is it Covid? Is it the shot(s). Is it Covid and the shot(s). Is it something else?

    It is criminal right now to recommend these shots to young healthy people. There is no way to know if the risks are more dangerous than the benefits. And the disease is not that dangerous to healthy people. And the vast vast majority of people have had Covid regardless of whether they took the shot(s).
     
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  3. QGator2414

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    Yeah Covid is going to be endemic. Let’s stop the herd immunity talk that Covid will go away or become irrelevant.
     
  4. QGator2414

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    Good grief the vaccinated are the ones dying. Why? They are the high risk group and for the most part have taken the shot(s).

    On top of that…this 400 number is exactly what @duggers_dad is getting at. Live in fear. Reality most of these deaths are with Covid. Not from Covid now. Even Dr. Leana Wen acknowledges the deaths are being overcounted now.

    You are good. You had what. Four shots? And they failed you as it was a rough go for you. Tough break. Glad you are doing better. You certainly don’t need another shot. But go for it if your risk tolerance is that low. I had zero shots and had a dull headache and 99.2 fever day 1. Then was tired in the afternoons for a week. Worked out every day after day 1.

    The deaths caused by policy around the world via starvation and the such from idiotic lockdowns dwarf the direct damage done by Covid.

    And if we find that SMI is caused by the shot…we have done inconceivable damage to people who never needed the shot.
     
  5. AzCatFan

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    So hybrid is better. Meaning less hospitalizations and deaths.

    As for myocarditis, the studies show the risk is higher with infection. And athletes with heart conditions? There's a prior link to a 2016 study showing an average of 29 athlete cardiac deaths a year. Since COVID, there has been no significant increase in incidents.

    Bottom line, if want to lower your risk, get vaccinated and boostered. Hybrid is better than NI, and vaccinated is better than unvaccinated.
     
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  6. tilly

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    Nope. Biden said it was over.
    500 a day is basically flu level and tis the season.

    But ftr, I was taking a shot at the tired back and forth. (And a lazy shot at the POTUS) ;)

    Literally nothing has changed in this thread in months. It's entertaining, I'll give it that.
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    500 a day is not flu level. That is considerably higher than the death rate for flu. More than double the rate, in fact. That would be about the worst flu season, added to the flu season that is also happening.

    Which is not to say that this is not a considerable improvement over prior years, but we should strive to be accurate.
     
  8. QGator2414

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    You want to put an archaic shot in your system that is unnecessary now…go for it. Just don’t put it in your kids. They deserve better.
     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    It's about the data and lowering the risk. The data shows the lowest risk is with hybrid immunity. Even with kids. The risk might already be low, but why not lower it even more?

    If the risk of the shots outweigh the benefits, that's another story. And that's story you are telling. But the data doesn't back this. As shown time and time again.
     
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  10. l_boy

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    If you consider that the flu seasons is usually a few months a year, on a daily basis 500 a day is comparable to a bad flu, during the flu season. 500*120 days = 60k, which would be among the bad flu seasons. Definitely well above average

    We may be saying the same thing here.
     
  11. l_boy

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    The problem with Biden, and Fauci at a much higher level, is they seem to come from a generation of thinking that confident simple straight talking fatherly assurance is what people want, and when it turns out to be more complicated than that they get in trouble. In his own way Trump tried to be the same way but what he said was typically so ridiculous it was just false from the start.
     
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  12. QGator2414

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    They did at the beginning for high risk groups. Now the benefits are negligible and the risks remain. If your risk tolerance is 4 shots and Covid once or twice is not enough with a much less severe version of Covid. Fire away.

    Just don’t put these shots in kids who do not need them and the risks actually outweigh the benefit.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    If trump were still in office, very few libs would be in favor of the jab and more likely, very hostile towards it. And as a bonus, all these poor people with heart trouble would suddenly be a huge deal.
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    It would be something lol!
     
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  17. tilly

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    No it isnt. The flu rate per day... During flu season... can run that high. Some years we can see 200 deaths per day from the flu over a year... But most of that actually happens during the flu season so the per day amount is much higher then.
     
  18. tilly

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    Agree.
     
  19. duggers_dad

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    Remember when Democrats were screaming that Trump was rushing the vaccine ?
     
  20. QGator2414

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    They love their trump shot lol…