Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

The Great Virtue!

I am sure you wear your mask at the number one place Covid spreads. Your house. I know it is inconvenient so it is surely okay there lol.

There is no convincing evidence masks do anything. In fact the preponderance of evidence pre and post Covid is that they do nothing to help slow the spread. But feel free to virtue away.

 

The only way covid gets into a house is by people leaving that house and coming into contact with other people who have covid. Masks aren't perfect but even a small reduction in transmission helps. The science that you ignore shows that masks help.

 

LOL! The vast majority of evidence shows masks are pointless. But you keep wearing one. Hope you do at the most important place…your house.

 

How Deadly Were the Covid Lockdowns?
For Americans under 45, there were more excess deaths without the virus in 2020-21 than with it.
Opinion | How Deadly Were the Covid Lockdowns?

More evidence of the cost of the lefts policy of avoiding science and data. Save a few of the 70+ crowd while costing far more young and healthy lives, disrupting education and social development of children and causing untold numbers of mental illness across the nation. Not to mention disastrous inflation. Good job guys.

 

The left’s policy? Who was president when we locked down? You live in a fantasy land.

 

Sorry but I don't fall for the 'who was president' line. It was the fault of every single member of government, with the left leading the charge. Hell, some areas controlled by leftists are still into all the covid theatre.

Governors and state/local government are responsible directly.

 

Lol @ you not buying it. That matters not one little but. The fact is the GOP controlled the presidency and the senate when we locked down. The majority of the government. The policies enacted and enforced during that period are thus GOP policies. Come to grips with reality.

 

Who locked down the states and cities, the president or the governor and city leaders?

To make this easier for you to answer, were the lock downs in California ordered by the federal government or state government? How about Florida? Were all schools across the US closed using the same timeline and restrictions, or were they different? Why?

I'm not buying it because your excuse is irrelevant to the situation. This would be like me blaming Biden for a $0.15 cent jump in gas prices if my state legislature implemented a $0.15 gas tax increase. It just doesn't make sense.

 

Please tell me which state or city didn’t lock down in March of 2020. I’ll hang up and listen.

 

Hell, tell me which civilized nation didn’t shut down in 2020. It was a global shut down. For you to call it “leftist” policy just shows how hopelessly partisan you are.

 

For a few weeks they all did. That was smart. I'll help you out with some information

Fact check: Governors, president both responsible in pandemic response

Federal and state government have different powers, but share responsibility

Governors in charge of statewide policies like lockdowns and mask mandates

Federal government has ‘unique’ powers to restrict travel, address supply issues

President also responsible for nationwide messaging

....It is true that governors are responsible for safety measures like stay-at-home orders and mask mandates, as well as reopening orders....

 

Again I would imagine most did for a short time. Then once it was discovered to be another mild illness most reopened, except many leftist bastions.

 

"Mild illness" that has killed over 6 million people. Okay then.

 

Yet another reason to distrust Pfizer and despise McConnell
https://kentuckylantern.com/2023/01...party-of-kentucky-to-expand-its-headquarters/

 

As memory serves, there was one, ONE Congressman who opposed lockdowns and bailouts - Thomas Massie.

 

Yeah there's this stuff called fentanyl that is ravaging rural red states and counties. Excess deaths have been rising since well before covid.

 

Yes it is a mild illness. It is also a new illness so there is no ability to protect the extremely vulnerable population (think 75 year old who is 50 pounds overweight with diabetes and heart failure) nor do they have existing antibodies, which is why there is a 6M total death count. Also, there are over 8,000,000,000 people in the world, so while 6,000,000 is a number that sounds high it is in reality 0.075% of the population. This means that 99.925% of people survived. In most areas this is considered extremely mild.

Between 2002 and 2011 the seasonal flu killed between 300,000 and 520,000 people worldwide despite there being decades of research and reliable vaccinations that actually work and don't cause heart issues. It is, similarly to covid, considered a mild illness by the vast majority of the population. I'd imagine that moving forward as science gets us closer to vaccinations that don't suck and people develop better immune responses to covid it will kill a similar number of people, as it won't be novel anymore.

It is unfortunate when anyone dies before reaching whatever their natural life span is, but lots of things are unfortunate and/or unfair in life. That's how life works. There are ways to react to this, like accepting reality and risk. There are also ways like enforcing insane lockdowns on healthy people that not only have no benefit but actually are quite harmful to the populations that are most important - those that work and keep society going (18-49) and those that are learning and socially developing (0-18). Which one do you think our government chose?

 

Nope. You are using models. Real life RCT's show masks don't work. It's why the virus spreads everywhere regardless of masking or no masking. It's like people refused to believe a hundred years of research on masking.

 

Absolutely Trump deserves blame. But he was quick to switch. He wanted to reopen earlier than we did. And many states that were blue absolutely kept the damaging lockdowns going longer. Plus Trump brought you your shot in record time by allowing corners to be cut. Unfortunately we rolled it out in a disastrous way.

 

Ahh, so your argument is that because the flu kills 1/6 as many people, the disease that kills 6x that many is "mild." Okay then.