Violent thugs and hooligans brutally attack police officers in D.C.

are you being serious here?

 

she wasn't a "shooting victim". She was a perp shot in the commission of a felony. Those aren't victims.

 

No, y'all never own that you're proclaiming accidental develppment-- but what do you call inanimate matter interacting without guidance of a will, intelligence, or purpose? Just mindlessly falling into places by mere happenstance, according to the laws of physics, biology, chemistry, etc, and sans ID, will, purpose, or intelligence, happens to fall into such place as to appear to have been assembled...and not just assembled, but assembled to such sophistication as to seek to, and to actually be able to, reproduce more of its own, in similar but new entities?

...and without intelligence, somehow act as if it knows that to exist and perpetuate its own kind, is desirable, and that to cease to exist, not?

I call that incredibly convenient fortuitous accidents (unless you concede intelligent, purpose and will preceded and guide (and continue to guide) the develpment).

Tell me your word for this miraculously fortuitous systematic development that occurred and even more luckily....did so to the point of inventing intelligence, will, desire, desire to perpetuate its own, to continue to exist in its organized functioning form, etc?

 

Yes. Btw, surprisingly, River posted that, without comment. I thought for sure it was going to be a hit piece on TC, but it was just a straight reporting of his take. (Which i found pretty solid).

 

Your opinion and mone aside....do you think any mother of her deceased daughter is going to subscribe to your characterization?

.....and do you fault her for not doing so?

 

Not a characterization. A straight fact.

Parents and their children should know about "play" around/find out consequences.

 

A political hack's wholly motivated and tainted by your blinding, burning disdain and abject contempt for all things Trump take.

Momma Babbitts take is surely motivated by the agony of lost love.

I find her position a thousand times more sympathetic than yours.

(Of couse my disdain and contempt for all things neo prog prolly matches yours for ATTrump, so feel free to draw your inferences from there).

 

I'm sympathetic towards Babbit's mother, but I always tell my kids their actions have consequences. And if you're not prepared for the potential consequences, then think carefully about your actions.

Ashli Babbit engaged in criminal trespassing during an insurrection attempt where several people, including police officers, died. All based on the false pretense of a stolen election. Babbit and the insurrectionists intent was to disrupt elected officials, and cause chaos using violence. If Babbitt didn't know this might end poorly for her and her compatriots, and could end in her death, that's on her. I have zero sympathy for Ashli. She's a traitor, who was shot to protect elected officials from bodily harm while she engaged in criminal activity.

And yes, much of this comes from hatred of Trump. He's the cause of the autogolpe attempt that almost marked the end of our 200+ year tradition of a peaceful transfer of power. If Trump didn't fancy himself as a Fascist Dictator, and took the election loss like a man, none of this happens.

 

So Trump’s welfare jobs programs, taxes on consumers & making NAFTA far more socialist don’t make him a neo prog? Ok

 

Her adult daughter went down the QANON rabbit hole. Ultimately she was shot while part of a violent mob, trying to smash her way through a window in the halls of Congress (in fact was trying to *lead* that mob through the window). These are the stone cold facts.

I think after two years this woman should have been able to process her daughters role in her own demise. The officer will never be prosecuted. Zero chance. His shoot was 100% justifiable. That doesn’t mean he had to shoot. But the legal standard isnt “did he really have to”, it’s only that it’s “reasonable”. Shooting a horde of zombies breaking through a window undoubtedly qualifies. If you wanted to join the mother in seeking “justice” it’s unfortunate you already exposed your hypocrisy in basically supporting the police in far more egregious “bad shoot” scenarios. I don’t think you are looking at this case on the merits, it’s about the red hat.

 

I'm sure your compassion was the same for George Floyd's mother.

Actually I'm 100% sure it isn't and I'm 100% sure of the reason why.

 

Maybe it was a super* intelligent being. I don't know, never will & hence, don't care.

* well, now humans have done it, so that opens the possibility that a dumb being did it.

Q for you. Why do you care about the org of life?

 

Well, youd be 100% wrong.

 

Not really invested in 'justice for Babbtt', just found it petty that posters in here getting aroused over the mother.

That's weak.

 

My interest in the origin of life is primarily motivated by the ubiquity of the parroted buffoonery of so many otherwise intelligent human beings subscribing wholesale to the absurd notion that life came about accidentally and accidentally yielded intelligence--and doing it boldly, and in the context of denying God ( all the while, denying the accident part, bc apparently they haven't thought it through).

Deny God if one must; dont make a dumbass of oneself, to make the point.

 

Some of us are far more disturbed by our intel apparatus sticking its very heavy hand on the scales to influence the last (or any) election, then the well meaning citizens who protested, bc they smelled a big fat RAT.

 

It’s on topic for the thread. Sorry you’re so triggered. Maybe this discussion isn’t for you

 

And your proof of the RAT again? The 60 something legal cases Trump lost? The laughable 2000 Mules movie? Maybe the additional court cases fellow loser Kari Lake lost?

Sorry, but attempting a coup attempt needs to be based on more than just feelings. That's not how democracy works. But believing in a strong leader has all the answers, and the system is against him, and only the leader can solve things is how Fascist dictators gain power.

As for my lack of belief in a God, are we talking Hindu deities? I'd bet you don't believe in those either. Same for all Native American deities, and all non Judeo/Christian ones. So I believe in one less God than you, and I'm a dumbass?

 

For the record, 92 does not believe in any specific god.

 

I guess Musk's releases haven't penetrated the snowglobe...

Latest Twitter Files shows CIA, FBI have spent years meddling in content moderation

(Inter alia).

As for God--i understand not believing i *God*, or any gods, on a strictly intellectual level. 'Dumbass' comes in when one subscribes wholesale to the patently absurd notion that life and all its sophistication could have come about accidentally (without intelligence), and even developed ever more sophisticated to the point of accidentally creating intelligence.

As i posted above, you dont have to subscribe to a specific deity or deities, or any source of the existence of intelligence, to at lesst recognize that intelligence had to exist before life, and that life has to be fruit of not just intelligence, but pretty damn high(er) intelligence.