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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. QGator2414

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    If you want a real indicator for something line this…you need to look at obesity.
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    Just popping in to suggest that nobody is dying from being fat. Now, weight gain may well accompany disease. But correlation is not causation.

    On the other hand, vaccines ...
     
  3. dangolegators

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    Obesity is already factored in, unless you think that people in the more unvaccinated states got fatter at a higher rate over the last few years than people in the more vaccinated states did.
     
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  4. QGator2414

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    Sounds like you understand how ignorant your post was then with its implication.
     
  5. dangolegators

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    You really don't understand this stuff. Excess mortality is the difference between actual mortality and expected mortality. Expected mortality for a state is based on past actual mortality for that state. So if the state had a higher rate of obesity, its actual past mortality rate would reflect that. The only way obesity would be a factor in rising actual mortality would be if the obesity rate rose too. It's doubtful that the obesity rate in Mississippi changed that much between 2019 and 2022. What did change is a virus called covid-19 appeared in 2020. Excess mortality went up with it in all states. But excess mortality was much higher in low vaccination states than in high vaccination states. This means that fewer people are dying in states with higher vaccination rates.
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    ^ Ohio still waiting on the phone. Compare to Florida.
     
  7. duggers_dad

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    Excess mortality caused by effects of panic, despair and vaccines.
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    Covid deaths have been decreasing while all cause excess mortality has not been. The fact we are not questioning the why is concerning. And unlike you...I am not saying it is all because of the shots. I certainly do theorize they are a contributing factor. But it will be a bunch of things. From Covid/the shot(s)/Covid with the shot/shot(s)/lockdowns/etc.
     
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  9. mdgator05

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    False (of course).

    Excess mortality: Deaths from all causes compared to projection
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Excess deaths staggeringly high - 10 to 20% - in most highly vaccinated countries.
     
  11. QGator2414

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    I did word it poorly for the person who wants to find a time frame and pick and choose how to present it.

    As a whole excess mortality has remained high while covid deaths have been declining. I apologize about the poor wording. I am sure you will be off with no concern as to the why.
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    False, of course. Out of the Top 9 countries in vaccine rates that have reported excess deaths this year and have non-Chinese vaccines, 3 are negative, 4 are under 10% and 2 are in the 10-20% range that you claim most of them are in.

    Excess mortality: Deaths from all causes compared to projection
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    You didn't word it poorly. You worded it wrongly. And yes, as long as people are dying from Covid (and they still are), we will likely continue to see higher than normal excess deaths at least until the baseline is based on a Post-Covid world.
     
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  14. duggers_dad

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    We can go country by country if you like. This is Australia. Thing is, when excess deaths are high, dry tinder effect usually dictates that subsequent years will be lower. Not in the so-called Covid Era ...

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  15. mdgator05

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    I provided the graph with all of the top countries. Feel free to go through it.

    Also, your dry tinder theory is hilarious given that your chart shows lower than anticipated deaths in Australia from 2020-2021.
     
  16. flgator2

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    COVID Jabs Have Erased 25 Years of Health Gains (theepochtimes.com)

    Excess Deaths Took Off After the COVID Jab Rollout
    While COVID-positive deaths were part of the equation in 2020, excess deaths really took off after the rollout of the COVID jabs, not during the height of the pandemic as one would expect if COVID-19 was the real killer.12 Besides, we already know that “COVID-19 death” simply means that the person tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 at the time of death or just prior to it.

    If the COVID jabs worked, you’d expect excess mortality to drop, yet that’s not what we’re seeing. We’re also not seeing mass death from COVID. The only clear factor that might account for these discrepancies is mass injection with an experimental gene transfer technology.

    For the U.S., there were 3,440,546 deaths of all ages for the year 2020.13 The expected numbers were 3,028,959, so that was an excess of 13.6% (411,587 above expected). In 2021, there were 3,459,496 deaths of all ages, which was 16.4% above expectations. As of mid-April 2022, the excess death rate was already at 14.1%, with 1,041,538 reported deaths of all ages.

    If the COVID jabs worked, you’d expect excess mortality to drop, yet that’s not what we’re seeing. We’re also not seeing mass death from COVID. The only clear factor that might account for these discrepancies is mass injection with an experimental gene transfer technology.
     
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  17. duggers_dad

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    If vaccination and masking was a nation ...

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  18. duggers_dad

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    Weren’t vaccines supposed to save lives ?

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  19. duggers_dad

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    FORMER Wall Street executive Edward Dowd, whom I interviewed for TCW last year, has been dissecting excess mortality statistics recorded since the Covid pandemic began three years ago. He has analysed and reanalysed the numbers and has concluded that excess death rates, in those aged 26-41, are closely related to the administration of Covid vaccinations.

    ‘From February 2021 to March 2022, millennials experienced the equivalent of a Vietnam war, with more than 60,000 excess deaths,’ he said. ‘The Vietnam war took 12 years to kill the same number of healthy young people we’ve just seen die in 12 months.’

    Under the spotlight: Excess deaths and the Covid vaccine - The Conservative Woman
     
  20. mdgator05

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    Japan's vaccination rate is quite similar to the US. And, if you enter Japan on the chart I showed, you would see that it's last measure of excess mortality was under 10%. Keep trying.