Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

I've kind of lost track at this point what are you all arguing about at this point?

 

There are three sides. One side argues that Covid is something like the Andromeda Strain and vaccines are the only reliable protection.

Another side is arguing that Covid is the flu and that the vaccines have a nasty side effects profile.

I’m arguing that cough and kill Grandma is a myth and so the pressure to hide/mask/vaccinate is darkly silly.

 

It's kinda hard to tell. One guy, desperately seeking attention, keeps posting mindless little observations that everyone is ignoring. Another guy seems to think no one needs to get vaccinated and that doctors are now not recommending that people get vaccinated because vaccine uptake is low. The rest of us are living in reality.

 

^ There is an Ignore function and there is a Pretend to Ignore function.

 

Don’t get too full of yourself. You troll hard in the Ukraine thread so I like most reasonable people either ignore you outright or just don’t respond. I haven’t posted in this thread until now so I’m unaware of your trolling here but now that I think about it it’s safe to say that you are without even looking. So congrats I’ll not respond directly to your nonsense here or anywhere. You are eminently mockable though so you will continue to get that.

 

Should I pretend to believe that Russia is evil and that you can kill your Grandma with a cough so as to spare your tender psyche ?

 

I think folks are getting better about not feeding it, certainly in this thread. It's pretty pathetic to see someone continuing to post idiotic nonsense but not getting any replies.

 

It actually makes perfect sense. When “it” no resources, when “it” merely dislikes what is being heard, “it” is reluctant to engage.

 

You and I both know the truth. You are just not willing to accept it.

I have never been a straight do not take these shots. Though my position today has evolved to they are not necessary. And they are not. The vast majority of doctors and people understand this. Hence the extremely low rate of taking the shots now even with the cdc pushing them in every single demographic.

The current public health policy is the antithesis of medicine and science. But your team says everyone take it so you comply with the position. Par for the course.

 

It is not that I want to hear one side or the other. I look at the data and can see reality. Just like you can.

This disease is not that dangerous to most. Even less so today. But you keep taking unnecessary shots of you think that is the best thing for you. It is a minority position now for a reason.

 

Cute. And par for the course with nothing to offer.

 

Wrong.

 

Point of order, every time you have provided links to data, the data said something different than you were saying. What you are seeing when you look at the data is objectively not reality.

 

Irony. The projection here is truly magnificent. You declare your thoughts true and tell other people that they just won't accept it. Whatever it takes to avoid cognitive dissonance, huh?

As I pointed out and you are still avoiding, 82% of Doctors agree with the CDC's recommendations. I know that isn't helpful to your argument, but it is just true. So, in reality, the vast majority of doctors don't at all agree with your position and you are arrogant enough to think they are wrong and you are right (but don't want to think you are that arrogant, so you end up with absurdly circular arguments like this one about how you aren't a person who believes in not taking shots right before you argue for not taking the shots).

Empty talking points again. The type of thing a person who has somehow turned opposition to the majority of scientists and medical professionals into an identity might do when somebody confronts them on it.

 

Yeah, when I look for data instead of a person telling me that I am right, I go straight to Youtube videos that agree with me. The best sort of raw factual data.

So, again, let me know the next time you come up with a source that actually disagreed with your position, as you claimed to want to do (which, again, is entirely about how you want to see yourself and want others to see you, not based on any sort of factual basis). It will be the first time, so I am interested.

 

The data is clear and has been from the beginning. You know this. Just like you know our policy ignored natural immunity when we had the data showing it was superior with Delta. We continue to push a shot on everyone once the disease did not care and knowing it had safely alarms for specific age groups. And she groups that have never been in serious danger of the disease.

The shot for high risk groups was probably the right call in the beginning. But we have failed miserably with handling the policy as time went on.

Hopefully we learn from the disaster this thing has been. And Trump absolutely deserves some blame in the process. That said. He led the way to get these shots out there in record time. But it is far past time to step back and approach this not as an emergency where corners are cut. But with science and medicine.

 

It is not my thoughts. The data shows this disease is not that dangerous to most. The data shows the shot is not necessary anymore.

Your survey is meaningless to reality.

 

Cute again…

 

Oh, it absolutely is your thoughts. And survey methodology utilizing a random sampling is the preferred scientific methodology to understand the thoughts of a large population. Sorry that the data shows that the majority of Doctors don't agree with you and that fact makes you feel very frustrated to the point of having to deny reality.