Has administration learned its lesson?

They can and will either encourage our boosters to divert money or not. Bama has always had a network of boosters involved. Discouraging boosters or “ excommunicating” them is a real thing.

 

I don’t have any issues — you just whine too much that’s all.

 

This thread is about the administration. Not another chance to criticize the coach and his staff. He is rebuilding this program from the foundation up.

All you have to do is look around Swamp Gas and you see many, many threads and posts "questioning" the Gators. One in this thread I just quoted above. Coach Napier is completely rebuilding Florida's football program from the depths it was allowed to sink during the years you mention. He asked everyone to remain patient when he first spoke to the Gator Nation. He can't, and can't reasonably be expected to, correct 10-years worth of decline in a single season . . . or even two. It will take slowly building progress (momentum).

We're seeing that progress with the great foundational recruiting class that just signed and with other kids already committed for next year's class. I hope all Gators can enjoy the ride back to the top.

 

And cheating/paying is not as beneficial as no profits and a lesser degree of bragging rights are in the equation.

 

Tennessee also has a whole lot bigger name than UCF. I told another Tennessee fan Coach Heupel reminds me of Doug Dickey at Tennessee from 1964-1969. I just hope Oklahoma doesn't come calling when they're looking for a new head football coach.

 

All of the above is true. I think though that some/most of that is offset by an administration not committed to winning. By committed to winning I mean; Spend the money, do what it takes to win. For example I will give you two very important items;

1) We were 10-15 late getting the training center and indoor practice facility. (UCF, yes that UCF had one prior to 2011). George O’ Leary got that going right after he was hired. O’ Leary wasn’t known as some kind of visionary so he must have know what was in the plans of the top programs in the early/mid 2000’s.

2) What kind of program that is committed to winning indefinitely suspends 9 players involved in what turned out to be “Young Men’s Stupidity”. Once that incident was determined to have had nothing to do with any organized criminal activity it should have been immediately adjudicated. But nooooooo, UF has to blow it up to be waaaayyy more serious than it was.

Programs and organizations that are committed to winning put the necessary resources toward that goal and don’t sabotage a season and several promising careers over “Boys Being Stupid”. They don’t treat it as Bernie Madoff II for weeks after it was well known not to be.

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1, all schools have access to those same players
2. Absolutely
3.finally
4.many teams with winning traditions and stopping at ten isn’t even realistic.
5. Doesn’t factor into having a winning football team.
We are an upper echelon football team but tgat group is much larger than ten teams and at the moment we can say we belong in that group but it’s larger than ten teams. We aren’t a top five job right now and there are probably ten more behind that group that we are with.

 

Agree....that's what I meant by more resources and support. But I don't believe Heupel himself is a strong recruiter....so it will be important to hit on 3 stars and rely on his system

 

This is an issue for students everywhere. Not just the ones who play sports. Some of the issue is a concern that other schools are not teaching up the levels required to or desired by the receiving school.

 

Tennessee's recruiting class was a good one and is ranked #9 by 247 Sports

 

Developing your bottom end of recruiting classes over the five years you have the kids is an important part of any program. That goes for the top half as well but I guess it’s just that stability matters. Veteran teams are just different, it’s just one part of running a top program. It all counts.

 

We certainly can question the foundation of the football program in terms of structure. Can a major college program win if all with a HC that is also the OC, QB coach and play caller at a top P5 program. There is a reason Ryan Day just announced he is giving up his OC duties at Ohio State. Not because his offense was bad, but because the CEO can’t win national championships while only focused on one side of the ball. This is my opinion, but Saban and Kirby are not their own DCs.

 

The biggest example of this is the administration's unwillingness to open up the checkbook to bring in the biggest names available to lead the program.

Both Kelly and Riley required close to double what Napier is being paid. We would never pay that. Hypothetically, if Napier is successful and Alabama was interested in him as Saban's successor, would we pony up what was necessary to keep him?

I tend to doubt that.

 

PFFT.. If the biggest boosters feel we need more NIL money, they will make it happen.

 

And the school can decide if those boosters can be welcomed or not.

 

Patience indeed. We will know when our patience has been rewarded. How will we know this? It won't be when we win a major bowl game or league championship. Those will come later. It will be when the great majority of our platers don't opt out of our post season bowl game.
I watched an Alabama team loaded with NFL talent dismantle a Kansas State team that didn't belong on the field with them. And not one of the Bama players opted out of the game. They had the same reasons to opt out that Florida players did and they chose to play for their school and their teammates. That is when you'll know that CBN has changed the culture at Florida.
When we see Florida players making the choice of team and school over personal gain we will have arrived.

 

Totally agree. I compl understand that AR has alot on the line and I understand sitting. I still would rather have Bryce Young because he played if I were a gm or coach.

 

I think those situations were not so much UF saying I won’t pay what it takes to get those coaches and more so just flat out assuming those types of coaches weren’t going anywhere and not even trying to ask.

I think if somehow Napier proves to be a super coach the admin will find a way to pay him top dollar. They’ve always done that before.