Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Anthony Richardson should be the #1 pick in the NFL draft...

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by doeringmortgage, Dec 17, 2022.

  1. Swampguy

    Swampguy Freshman

    14
    4
    133
    Dec 26, 2015
    Hudson, FL
    He may be picked up in the 2nd or 3rd round but I doubt he sees a lot of success in the league. He never could effectively read a defense, couldn't throw a simple swing-out pass and ran tentatively appearing to be avoiding contact, i.e. ditching the ball after rolling out when he had daylight in front of him. I just can't believe that pro scouts have not seen all this already by looking at our tape. As a person and rep of the Gators I thought he did fine, but the payoff never happened with AR.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. tmape01

    tmape01 Junior

    117
    41
    1,768
    Apr 18, 2007
    if you honestly believe Richardson is going to slip past the top 4/5 picks, you haven’t been keeping up with the NFL Draft for at least ten years
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  3. gatorempire

    gatorempire GC Legend

    508
    133
    1,723
    Jul 23, 2021
    Yes, regardless of how prepared we think he is, it seems clear he'll be picked early.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  4. tommyuf21

    tommyuf21 GC Hall of Fame

    7,494
    205
    258
    Apr 8, 2007
    The people who are making the decisions are not like us. They don't feel burned or are filled with the disappointment of having a generational talent and having really nothing to show for it.

    I think a lot of the home town assessments of him are tinged a bit with that disappointment and I get it. It's totally understandable.

    NFL GM's and Player Personnel Directors could care less about what he did or didn't do to help the Gators win. That's our problem.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. Matthanuf06

    Matthanuf06 GC Hall of Fame

    12,618
    596
    673
    Sep 13, 2007
    Yep.

    Many schools get burned with players outperforming their college performance.

    We have actually gotten lucky where a lot of our guys did a lot better in college than the pros (Tebow, Danny, nearly all of our WRs, a lot of our DBs).

    But it started under Champ where we started seeing players more productive in the pros than college. That happened on offense. We have quite a handful of successful OL floating out there

    Now Pierce

    Now AR….

    James Houston…

    But Michigan obviously didn’t get to truly enjoy Brady. Kamara was disgustingly underused. Ole Miss has DK and AJ. Josh Jacobs didn’t get much run at Bama. The NFL is littered with these type of guys
     
    • Agree Agree x 4
    • Informative Informative x 2
  6. malscott

    malscott GC Hall of Fame

    12,258
    10,357
    2,948
    Apr 3, 2007
    West Hills, Ca
    First, I must say I wish the kid complete and total success at the next level. He was a good kid. True Gator. I loved when he did the float wave after TD's. Funny as hell.

    Here's my concerns. Remember our shoe tosser? He does the combine has crazy numbers, jumps a million feet and really was okay for us- but not crazy good. Suddenly balling out in the NFL. I wonder if Richardson will suddenly be all world in the NFL? Because why didn't the other kid show up for us? I'm still confused about Richardson.

    Was he mentally challenged in the game, and what I mean by that, could he read defenses? He has the pro arm like nobody's business, but seemed fragile and needs work. I would call him an NFL project. Unless suddenly he's like the shoe tosser- becomes all world. Who knows? Good kid, we saw unreal glimpses. Never the full complement.

    Look how good Trask was an he's been sitting behind the goat forever. The NFL confuses me. Kids confuse me.

    Gators never really had a big-ass NFL QB. Some balled out okay. Grossman and a few others. But no household name types. Maybe that'll be him, who knows? We had a few that left that did well.

    Here's to the kid making it big in the NFL.

    Go Gators.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. tmape01

    tmape01 Junior

    117
    41
    1,768
    Apr 18, 2007
    it’s pretty simple, actually - UF has had some bad/lazy coaching at all levels for about the past ten consecutive years.

    player development has been very poor at UF, and this has not gone unnoticed by the NFL. with razor-thin margins and a hyper competitive league where the extremely rigid salary cap makes parity a main focus, tiny advantages mean a ton.

    drafting a UF player often means getting very good value because they haven’t been properly coached in college and can outperform their draft slot with competent player development.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  8. The question is not whether Richardson will be the #1 pick or even a 1st round draft pick, but whether he will succeed in the NFL despite not being a statistically good QB in college.

    If you look at the NFL QB power rankings for last week you will see that 16 QBs were drafted in round 1. Here is the tally of NFL draft rounds.
    1. 16
    2. 3
    3. 5
    4. 2
    5. 1
    6. 3
    7. 1
    8. UFA 1
    Some of these starters have similar college profiles as Richardson in terms of QB rating in year 1 as a starter, but AR obviously gets bonus points for physical attributes. On the other hand, there are no comparable QBs on last week's NFL QB power rankings who did the bare minimum of one year as a starter before jumping for the NFL. Here is a random sampling of year 1 college passer ratings for Richardson and starters on the NFL QB power rankings:
    • Anthony Richardson 131.0 (year 3, sophomore year)
    • #12 Tom Brady 133.1 (138.0 in year 2, senior year)
    • #13 Gardner Minshew 124.0 (129.1 in year 2; 147.6 in year 3 after transferring to Mike Leach's Washington St)
    • #22 Mike White 100.5 (112.4 in year 2; 181.4 in year 3 as transfer from USF to WKU and redshirt year; 140.8 in year 4)
    • #29 Tyler Huntley 138.1 (140.1 in year 2, 177.6 in year 3)
    College statistics and draft round do not necessarily tell the entire story.
     
  9. staticgator

    staticgator GC Legend

    850
    207
    1,818
    Nov 27, 2016
    That’s what I thought about UGA players during the Richt years. Now it’s us.
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
  10. friendlyvol

    friendlyvol Sophomore

    68
    8
    33
    Jan 1, 2023
    Southeast Tennessee
    I think AR will be an NFL bench warmer and then a long term starter in the Canadian Football League. Anthony Richardson is the kind of Quarterback they love in the CFL.
     
  11. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    16,781
    4,259
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    It doesn’t bother me personally that he went pro. It’s a no brainer. The kid is about to get lifechanging money. That doesn’t mean I believe he will ever be a top 15 nfl qb. I’d bet big money on the other side of that bet. I love the kid and hope he is tge super bowl mvp in a few years but I just don’t see it.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    16,781
    4,259
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    Players that don’t light up a combine but are just great football players. Sometimes I wonder why these pro scouts can’t see that a player is just good at football.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. swampjak

    swampjak Recruit

    4
    0
    1
    Dec 3, 2019
    Did you watch this game between Tulane and USC game and yesterday for example TCU? These players went above and beyond for their team and school. And we, Gators, have, had, a quarterback who thinks he is God’s gift to the NFL and has achieved nothing significant as a Gator quarterback or a leader of his team who decides to go pro. That’s entertainment? and I spent $5000 to watch. I guess I’m the one who is delusional. GO GATORS…someday
     
  14. swampjak

    swampjak Recruit

    4
    0
    1
    Dec 3, 2019
    The question is why are we not getting players who want PLAY. By the way I hate to say it but the fsu quarterback is a gamer and is coming back for another season. He entered the FSU about 2020 and waited his turn last year and is now producing big time. Where is our guy?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. swampjak

    swampjak Recruit

    4
    0
    1
    Dec 3, 2019
    He didn’t even show for the bowl game. Way to represent your hometown school and be leader to the team. Does the NFL really need this type of player?
     
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
  16. tommyuf21

    tommyuf21 GC Hall of Fame

    7,494
    205
    258
    Apr 8, 2007
    Big picture, if he has that kind of success, it will only help us. We should all hope this happens.
     
  17. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    16,781
    4,259
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    I spent about 5k to watch three games, don’t matter. I’ll never pay a dime to watch a bowl if the team doesn’t care about it.
     
  18. wargunfan

    wargunfan GC Hall of Fame

    4,748
    815
    1,888
    Jan 6, 2010
    Inside your head.
    If that's the heart of the man I don't want him on my NFL team infecting my players with his me first attitude. I watched him grinning and joking on the bench while we were losing and if I were an NFL coach I wouldn't want him anywhere near my players.
     
  19. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    16,781
    4,259
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    I’ve never heard any 75% talk but he didn’t play, that I know.
     
  20. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Hall of Fame

    2,201
    960
    2,063
    Nov 11, 2014
    To hell with "The fsu."
     
    • Funny Funny x 1