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SO WHAT ENDS NIL

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by PlantationGator, Dec 24, 2022.

  1. 96Gatorcise

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    The answer to what you are saying is multi yr scholarships with penalties for leaving early. But all universities must agree to do it.

    Universities offer one year renewable scholarships. Once the year is up, the player should be free to seek out another scholarship without penalty because both sides have fulfilled the one year term.

    If all universities agreed to 2 yr scholarships/ contract then players could be penalized for leaving early.
     
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  3. gator10

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    Yep. NIL turned in to a license to pay players to entice them to come to your school and has nothing to do with name and image. I think UGA saw this opportunity coming to basically buy players and jumped on it before everyone else to build the behemoth they have now. Alabama has always been doing it.
     
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  4. Wanne15

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    Contracts don’t penalize, they make it impossible for Tom Brady to just decide he is playing for tge Buc’s the following year. There are rules and structure. You play out your contract or you don’t play at all, anywhere. I’m usually on the small guys side which in this case would be the players but this is ridiculous. For a school to develop a kid for three years until he’s capable of return on Investment only to be free to leave with no strings attached? That some bs. Maybe that’s why Vandy just cashed their check and says the hell with trying to win, they are supposedly the smart ones. Why play a rigged game?
     
  5. 96Gatorcise

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    You are hung up on development and then the players leaving.
    The schools are the ones that limit the length of the scholarship to one year. After that year both parties are free to move on because the scholarship has been fulfilled.
     
  6. Wanne15

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    That’s straight bs. They aren’t employees, there’s no contract, collective bargaining agreement. These kids can walk anytime they want. They can take off their jersey mid game and waltz right over to the next school and enroll. The next year the kid can suit up anywhere he wants with zero repercussions.
     
  7. Wanne15

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    The root of tge problem is Vandy and Bama have the same rules but aren’t the same thing. Bama pays kids and Vandy just cashed checks. There aren’t 138 teams that belong in the business model in the first place. It’s a complete mess from top to bottom and it’s becoming almost unwatchable.professional sports with almost no rules as to who is on which team? Just shake em up in a can before each game?
     
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  8. northgagator

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    And Kirby learned how to do it while he was at Bama!
     
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  9. Crusher

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  10. Crusher

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    We are seeing it from every school. Some are just plowing more money into the till than others.
     
  11. phatGator

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    I don’t think I’ve seen this discussed, but I wonder how many people contributing to NIL are writing that off on their taxes as either a business expense or an investment. What happens when the IRS starts to look at those tax returns and decides there was not a reasonable expectation to turn a profit on their business? Once those people start getting hammered for improper deductions, the whole structure of NIL might change.
     
  12. phatGator

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    I think the scholarship agreements the high school athletes sign needs to say that if they choose to leave before graduation or end of eligibility, they must repay the university for room, board, education, and the value of their training or tutoring in football. This would not apply if they cannot play because of injury or a cut from the team.

    of course, every college would have to require this, or the players will just gravitate towards those schools that do not require it. And we know some schools only care about winning, so there would be those who choose not to add the clause just keep breaking into players.
     
  13. 96Gatorcise

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    That would work if the scholarship was for 4 yrs. But they are only one year scholarships. They are renewed each yr with university discretion. So a player should have the right to look around every year for a new scholarship.

    The system is set up as a form of restricted free agency. The current team has the right to resign the player first but the player can also look for a better scholarship.
     
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  14. 96Gatorcise

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    Also no one is forcing the university to pay top dollar for coaches, facilities etc. It is something the choose to do to be a top football university. They can always make the decision to drop down in division or even go IVY league style and not offer athletic scholarships to attend school but still play football.
     
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  15. Gatorrick22

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    I used to feel this way but our Congress is in shamble and they could actually make it worse. No thank you.
     
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  16. paidinfull

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    So you want four year contracts? That will not resolve the kids being bought out of high school. You also still have an 85 scholly limit, so if you sign the normal 25 kids per year, your 4th year you’d only be able to sign 10 players, and you’ll have a continued mess to deal with on that front as well as a bunch of deadweight on your roster.


    What you want is a minor league nfl, but that won’t be tied to the schools and the schools will still be in the same predicament, they’ll just have second choice at getting players.
     
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    And I haven't seen anything about the athletes paying taxes on their income of value of goods received. Are they being taxed? If not, why not?
     
  18. Wanne15

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    I don’t want a draft at all. That’s a mess. Contracts would be nice though. One year, two year , five year, that’s up to the two parties involved. If Trask signed a four year contract, he’d play for the gators or sit home. No need to bust out another mil to keep your player.
     
  19. Wanne15

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    Sure they are being taxed. The irs loves all money
     
  20. Wanne15

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    Can’t have your cake and eat it too I guess