Is It Time For Men To Let Women Take Over Society?

I am not tall or buff. I think I am rather average looking but I treat women as equals. I listen to them and respect what they say. I am 57 years old and broke. I rarely sleep alone. Every woman I sleep with is beautiful. The key here is to look for beauty not for flaws.

 

Going to strip clubs and watching porn have put unrealistic expectations on women by men. It’s terrible for society to have such easy access to such things. My advice is to adjust your expectations. Women can smell desperation. Find a hobby that keeps you completely satisfied with life and love will find you. Women are not attracted to the same things that attract men. Mostly they want stability. Sometimes that means money (Good career) and sometimes that means that you have to look healthy (not necessarily athletic but at least not fat). Don’t blame women for not wanting to be a fantasy creature. After all it turns out they are just people too.

 

Men in general aren't geared for "giving up." Too competitive. Up your game and stop whining. Weak and desperate is never a good look.

 

Not True. I bang my hot step mother all the time.

 

Well, this part is true. Women don’t need men as much today. Is that a bad thing though? Would you want to be in a relationship where the woman was only with you because she needs a roof over her head or rather because she enjoys spending time with you? If it’s the former, you might as well just pay for the sex. But it doesn’t sound like that’s your real issue here but rather you’re resentful about the changing power dynamics.

As perplexing as it is to me, the fact is that most women all over the world like men and want men. If you want a committed relationship, you only need to find 1 woman who is compatible. Those are pretty good odds. You gotta get yourself right first though because nobody can make you happy or give you an identity.

 

You are attractiveness level has zero correlation with you being a creep. Try not being a creep.

 

No woman I know wants a man who us self loathing all the time and knows the guy is only going out with her because he can't do any better. That's not a recipe for dating success.

And plenty of women have a variety of definitions of what they find attractive. My wife think Patrick Stewart today is sexier than Brad Pitt in his prime. But looks is only a small part of what attracts her. She likes intelligence, wit, charm, and hates cockiness. When I met my wife, I thought she was the most beautiful woman I ever met and thought she was way out of my league. But she liked me because I was charming, funny, and interested in getting to know her as a person. 25 years of marriage and she is still out of my league, but we're together and happy.

Last, men "giving up" and letting women run the world would never work. Too many competitive males, and plenty of us who want to contribute. And while some men want a trophy wife, there aren't too many women wanting a trophy husband. As for me personally, I don't even want a trophy wife. I want a partner. An equal who contributes much more than just her looks.

 

You describe yourself as unattractive, and lament women not being attracted to you, but you use the same criteria towards women. You don’t see the irony in that.

l think for most me going to bars or other similar places to spark relationships is a losing proposition. My experiences there will be a few guys who have great luck and most don’t. You’d probably be better off meeting women through some organized group, or perhaps a dating site or maybe even a matchmaking site, especially if you are near 40.

Of course if you are hanging around strippers and their look is what you are shooting for then yes you likely have a conundrum. Although I had another friend, average looking guy that hung around strippers and seemed to get into their social circle.

I recall one friend decades ago, not wildly attractive but did well for himself to me “we are all ugly when we get old anyway”. I recall another saying something like “don’t pick yourself to loneliness” (as he being a fairly attractive married guy who would hook up with other marginally attractive women).

Like anything else important for most people it takes work. More so that your self described attractiveness your outlook on life and self loathing are going to be a bigger problem for you.

What I am perplexed at is how you went from somebody who has trouble finding dates to deciding that all men should just give up and drop out of society and let women take over.

 

Is actually pretty easy to ‘date’ strippers if you hang around strip clubs and get to know them a bit. That being said, it’s a pretty terrible idea. The overwhelming majority of them are a mess, and 100% not worth the drama.

 

That was you in that movie?

 

so what exactly is your standard?

 

Exactly, maybe asking her out on a date would have been a better move. Hint friends with benefits is not a step towards a relationship.

 

I can’t think of a bigger turnoff for a woman than an incel. Talk about self-defeating. But maybe that’s the point. Good luck, OP.

 

I think he posts nonsense like this every once in awhile. If no one responds he goes away for a bit. I bit this time probably shouldn’t have. He doesn’t try to change even if he is not trolling. I think not responding is the way to go.