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How would you tame NIL?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by supduc, Dec 23, 2022.

  1. Crusher

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    Excellent analogy...they are signing these bands for their output and their play. Just like 99.99% of these college NIL deals are. They have zero to do with their pre-existing name, image, and likeness value. There is only 1 dude in the entire 2023 signing class that had pre-existing NIL value and that is Arch Manning and it certainly isn't for anything he has personally done to date.
     
  2. paidinfull

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    yep, the baseball kids get to use this strategy coming out of high school, then again after their junior year (some older sophomores), then all those that got the free covid year could use it again after their true senior year.

    Makes it tough on the college coaches trying to plan their roster, but I really like the way baseball does it, and wish basketball and football would follow suit. Been saying this for years.
     
  3. 96Gatorcise

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    This is Florida law:
    • A postsecondary educational institution may not adopt or maintain a contract, rule, regulation, standard, or other requirement that prevents or unduly restricts an intercollegiate athlete from earning compensation for the use of her or his name, image, or likeness. Earning such compensation may not affect the intercollegiate athlete’s grant-in-aid or athletic eligibility.

    Throws a wrinkle into some of the suggestions given here to tame NIL.
     
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  4. paidinfull

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    You’re gonna need to post this several times a day across multiple threads, cause some folks just don’t get it.
     
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  5. 96Gatorcise

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    Thinking about that law. Any rule that the SEC or NCAA comes up with would be void for any Florida school.
    Law>rule.
     
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  6. paidinfull

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    Yep, that’s why the schools in states with more lax laws are able to do a lot of things we aren’t. See TX and CA. I guess Miami is considered part of NJ? They seem to be exempt from our laws.
     
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  7. CHFG8R

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    What's the second? The scout team?
     
  8. CHFG8R

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    Trust me, in a world that televises cornhole, there would certainly be a market for minor league football with direct affiliation to the NFL teams. This is more about not spending and stuffing dollars into their pockets. Why pay when you can get it for free?
     
  9. paidinfull

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    I see people say stuff like this all the time, but nobody watches minor league baseball, or g league basketball.
     
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  10. CHFG8R

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    G league basketball has no direct affiliation. Like NFL Europe, who cares. And I'm pretty sure it's still televised and someone pays (or foots) the bill for that. MiLB does very well in some markets in terms of attendance and are profitable. Problem is saturation. You have 5-6 levels of minor leagues, different leagues in each level, etc. and 100+ game schedules at all levels.

    32 NiFL teams with direct affiliation to the parent teams and probably playing in their backyard? Yeah, you'd definitely have viewers and you'd definitely be able to secure a pretty good TV deal. Again, dude, they televise cornhole. . . sometimes in prime time. If you don't think there would be a market for this, you are literally overdosing on drugs.
     
  11. Brodeur

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    Give it a couple years. Some money will dry up as boosters tire of spending money on players that aren't winning much. Eventually the deals will become more performance based to avoid deals like Addison this year. Collectives will need to balance enticing recruits vs rewarding upper classmen that perform for the program. It's early, lots will change.

    I would like too see the 1 year sit rule for transfers to return to avoid some of the tampering we're starting to see. Plus maybe actually enforce academic standards.
     
  12. paidinfull

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    The other football startup leagues got some pretty decent tv deals and they’re all doing well, I suppose…errrrrr, maybe not.

    I don’t even watch the regular nfl and would probably watch cornhole before watching an even more watered down product.

    Minor league baseball may have a couple of teams that have a decent local following, but they have no tv market, and I don’t know a single person that follows minor league baseball with any type of enthusiasm.

    The g league is affiliated with the nba. It’s called the “NBA G League”, and the teams have a direct affiliation with their parent NBA teams. Not sure why you think it’s not. They play their games on tv too, but it doesn’t have a real following.
     
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  13. CHFG8R

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    Whatever dude, believe what you want to believe. You're completely misrepresenting my previous post and I'm not getting into a back and forth on this. The reason the NFL doesn't have a minor league is because they already get one for free. PERIOD. If you raised academic standards today, they have a minor league in place by next fall. They're not going to let the '24 and '25 draft class rot on the streets. There is value in development. Would that league even break even? Maybe. I don't really care. But I sure as hell would watch the Orlando Bucs vs. the WPB Dolphins on a Tuesday night before I'd watch cornhole, XFL, DLeague or pretty much anything ESPN has to offer outside of College Football, NHL and some college basketball.

    And, honestly, the NFL has more integrity than college at this point. At least it's all out there for everyone to see, hard rules in place, etc. Secondly, RedZone is probably the best football product going right now at any level.
     
  14. paidinfull

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    Ok dude.
     
  15. supduc

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    Thanks for posting this! Definitely puts a damper on the latter ideas I posted. the one year Transfer rule would still work, I think.

     
  16. 96Gatorcise

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    I think not. It could be argued that forcing a player to sit out one yr for transferring unduly restricts a player from making NIL money.
     
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  17. Brodeur

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    The law says you can't affect eligibility due to NIL deals or restriction them from making NIL deals. Unless forcing them to sit is an unduly restriction, which I don't think it is, the law does not get in the way.

    Otherwise you could argue only having 4 years of eligibility unduly restricts athletes way more than having to sit for a transfer, and the state isn't trying to unmade those rules.
     
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    Reading the law in post 63. First sentence, schools can't have rules and restrictions that effect earning NIL. The second sentence states that earning this compensation can not effect aid or eligibility.
    Am I reading too much into it? they are 2 separate things covered in those sentences.
     
  19. Crusher

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    Only allowing 5 years of eligibility to play 4 is restrictive too. Meeting academic requirements is restrictive. However, NONE of this restricts true NIL...just pay for play. If it was truly NIL they would get the money whether they played or not.
     
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  20. Crusher

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    Yes