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Is It Time For Men To Let Women Take Over Society?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by cflgator83, Dec 23, 2022.

  1. ridgetop

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    Seems we get this same dumb post every few months. Just stop.
    And while men have caused a lot of pain and hurt they have also advanced the world over and over every generation.Whether in exploration, science, innovation, etc…
    And in the few historic cases where women ruled… they often proved to be just as cruel, just as lustful, just as terrible as men.
    Granted I’m not as educated as some on this board. But I have been married to my beautiful loving wife for many decades, we have grown old(er) together and have raised amazing children. We have been very successful in our endeavors and look forward to enjoying our remaining years together.
    And it took both of us. She would agree with that.
    Men and women should be partners in life.. not in strife.

    As for the OP… grow up. Your looks have nothing to do with it. Lyle Lovett got married to a beautiful women and he isn’t a real looker. Get your life together, get a personality that isn’t that of a pathetic victim of society and move on. And stop posting these threads. I’m beginning to think you are trolling for like minded men to convert to your incel garbage.
     
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  2. G8tas

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    I think OP has a standard that no woman can meet
     
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  3. WC53

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    Has no one seen mean girls ;)
     
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  4. AndyGator

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    And by the way, it's not that men are more corrupt than women but more of a power corrupts problem, and currently there just happens to be more men in power than women.

    So don't confuse the problem here. On an individual level it is up to you to stop generalizing and demonizing women just because you have a negativity problem.
     
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  5. AgingGator

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    I never said responsible, but there does seem to be a high correlation. Also, there’s a different bond between moms and their boys than their is with their daughters, just as there is between dads and their daughters.

    Your being selective in your examples and very biased against the good that men do. You are also oversimplifying this as if “who is running things” is going to make a whole hell of a lot of difference when it comes to bad behavior.

    Now when it comes to being kept in a cage and only being a sperm donor, count me in as long as it’s “in person” fertilization and I can be as selective as to who I fertilize as you are being selective in this discussion.
     
  6. AgingGator

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    Well said. Thank you!
     
  7. carpeveritas

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    To answer the question of men becoming obsolete the answer is no. Where you seem to believe this is an issue is directly related to the United States and a hyper sensitivity to your current situation. Of course this is an assumption on my part. And yes there are both men and women that never find relationships or marry (the old spinster). Even the women in strip clubs depend on men to ply their trade.

    That said I certainly don't see men becoming obsolete when you take into consideration a global view of humanity.
     
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  8. Trickster

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    You seem to be implying that's what women do now, lay around doing nothing. Might be a reason you haven't been successful with women.
     
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  9. AzCatFan

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    There's an adage that men fall in love with what they see. Women fall in love with what they hear. It's how Billy Joel could marry someone like Christie Brinkley, or Ric Okasic with Paulina Porischiva.

    If the OP believes that he is settling because that's the only way he can get a date, the woman will hear this, and either won't date him, or stay with him long. Women don't want to feel like you're settling, and only dating them because you can't find anyone better.

    Incels make the mistake of seeing attraction only as a physical thing, like men do. Incels don't attract women because they are physically ugly. Many men "out kick their coverage" and date very attractive women. The difference is these men don't care what they look like, don't settle, don't hate women, and have confidence that despite their looks, they have something to offer.

    As for women taking over? I'm for equality. Whomever is most qualified should get the job of leading.
     
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  10. homer

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    I’ll become a trans woman and kick their ass in sports.
     
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  11. channingcrowderhungry

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    You see unattractive men with good looking women all the time. Very seldom do you see an attractive man with an unattractive woman.

    Me thinks the victimhood really lays with the unattractive female.
     
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  12. citygator

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    While I don’t think we need a male-less society I do think men need to significantly reduce the amount of violence and mayhem they cause in the modern world.
     
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  13. GatorRade

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    1. I’m glad to see you back and doing ok. I was worried that you might do something rash due to the way you were talking after the Biden MAGA speech. I’m glad you allowed yourself to have some space and calm down. We should never make big decisions when in the throes of intense passion.

    2. I don’t think anyone actually runs society. It has its own emergent order that doesn’t take direction from any single faction. Decades ago the nation caught “pet rock” fever, which sounds ridiculous, a bunch of grown adults buying rocks to be their pets. The person who invented the pet rock didn’t cause that. We know this because thousands have attempted to replicate that phenomenon and failed. Society has its own rhythm.

    3. I also question where there are such populations and men and women. Not in the gender questioning aspect, but our tribes usually aren’t men vs women. It’s like how Marx thought socioeconomic classes would unite, but we simply don’t segregate that way. If there was an emergency, I’d feel no responsibility for a dude in Wyoming who was of slightly above average wealth because he shared my gender or because he made the same amount of money as me. I care about my family and neighbors, which both consist of males and females.

    4. I agree with much of the advice above. You don’t have to live this way. We almost all like beautiful people, but having a partner who is pretty isn’t fulfilling in the long run. You want a good person. And like I said above, “women” aren’t a monolithic block. A lot of them don’t care about looks at all.

    5. Most importantly, I think you need help changing your outlook. I don’t think this incel identity is doing you any favors. It’s like the person who can’t sleep because they are so worried about not being able to sleep. Our communities exert powerful influences on us, and I think you need to find a different one. I would also recommend therapy. Not because I think there’s something wrong with you, but because you don’t seem happy and fulfilled. I know it doesn’t seem like it, but you really don’t need to change much to obtain the life you desire. I think you just need some strategies for changing your mindset. You’re really close man.

    Anyway, you may have noticed that I’ve written much of this to you before. A few times now. This is because I actually believe it. I have a great wife, and I’m a total dufus. My life would be so much less fulfilling without her, but all I really need to do is love her to keep her. Relationships aren’t always easy, but the bottom line is simple. You really can do this man. Everyone one of your ancestors over the last billion years managed to find a mate. You come from good stock. :)
     
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  14. ridgetop

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    Agreed. But would point out that women cause quite a bit of violence and mayhem as well. It’s not a gender thing… it’s a power and means thing. Men and women, when given the means (opportunity) and power to cause mayhem and pain often will. The way that mayhem and pain is introduced and the way it is carried out will be different but both genders cause too much in a so called advanced civilization
     
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  15. cflgator83

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    And yet any women, no matter how unattractive, can get laid if they want it bad enough. The same can not be said for a lot of men. Try being a man in the lower 50% and see how easy it is to get laid. Most likely the woman will tell you to go away before she calls the cops to report you stalking her. If you're an attractive man and approach a woman she'll go all out for you. If you're not an attractive man and approach a woman she'll just look at you as a creep.
     
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  16. cflgator83

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    All these responses (and I appreciate all the responses, especially GatorRade, I'll respond to yours later when I have more time) and yet let me ask you all this? Why shouldn't men just give up and let women take over society? Let women have all the responsibility and all the high pressure careers and jobs? Let women take all the blame when something bad happens?

    To use a college football term why shouldn't men just opt out of life for the most part and live a life of freedom and little to no stress? Live a life of leisure while doing recreational activities (traveling, hiking, fishing, hunting, playing sports, playing video games, going to events)?

    If most men actually went this route (and more are) how would women react? What if most men simply decided to give women what they think they always wanted (power and control) and opted out? What if men simply said "okay women, you win, here's all the control, it's all on you now, I'll be at the beach (or insert whatever activity the man wants to do)". What would women actually do?
     
  17. vaxcardinal

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    Is your goal just to get laid or to find a women?
     
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  18. cflgator83

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    Is it wrong to want both? While not the point of the thread to answer your question I've pretty much given up on both. Well when it comes to getting laid at least I've given up on getting it for free. I know I can still have sex whenever I want but I'll have to pay for it and many men are in the same boat. Women on the other hand, even if they are not attractive, can still for the most part get sex for free if they want it bad enough.

    I saw this first hand over Thanksgiving when one of my cousins "surprised us" with her boyfriend. She is about as ugly as you can get (inside and outside, she has spent time in jail) and yet somehow still has a boyfriend and is having sex. Her example alone proves my point. If she can somehow have a boyfriend and have sex almost any woman (outside of maybe a woman who is physically deformed in some way) can. The same can not be said for men.
     
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  19. danmanne65

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    Perhaps if you looked for a woman to partner with you would do better. I imagine if the most attractive man went around asking women for sex he would get the same response.
     
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  20. danmanne65

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    Perhaps if you stopped thinking of people as men and women but just as people. You would do better it’s everyone.
     
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