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Is It Time For Men To Let Women Take Over Society?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by cflgator83, Dec 23, 2022.

  1. cflgator83

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    This is speaking as a man and one who, while not against women, is just tired of men being blamed for all of societies problems.

    So I have several questions for both women and men on here. Are men really needed anymore in society? Should men just let women take over?

    It's sad but so true. As a 39 year old man who has had very little success in dating I've all but given up on ever being in a genuine relationship with women. I know my chance to attract any type of decent woman is pretty much gone at this point. I'm not conventionally attractive so realistically my chance of dating a woman I would be attracted to are pretty minimum. I would most likely have to settle for a woman I would not be attracted to and that would not be fair to either one of us. At this point I just go to the strip clubs every week or two to have a woman be physical with me.

    But as I have lamented my dating and relationship situation, I realize it's really not my fault completely. Men are no longer needed in society. Think about it, women outpace men at all levels of education now, including high school and college (bachelor's, master's and Ph'D's). With technology and automation manual labor jobs, where men have typically thrived, are going away. Meanwhile less manual labor jobs, especially jobs that require soft skills, where woman have typically thrived, are expanding significantly.

    Let's take nursing and nurse practitioners for example. One of the fields where the level of growth is expected to be tremendous. Men barely exist in nursing and nurse practitioner positions. While there is a push to educate more women to become doctors there is no push at all to educate more men to become nurses or nurse practitioners.

    So we have a workforce changing to where men are falling behind and no one really cares because men aren't needed anymore. Let's look at the personal side.

    As more women have careers (and in more cases high paying careers) this has two huge impacts on their personal life. This includes the following:

    1)More women are in careers where they are no longer reliant on a man for their income/livelihood.
    2)More women are in careers that would make it very inconvenient, if not impossible, to have children.

    Due to these two factors this means women no longer have to be in relationships just for a family and/or financial perspective which most likely eliminates a fair amount of relationships and marriages.

    Let's also look at the fact that more and more women are becoming lesbian. Every time there is a lesbian couple that takes two women out of the dating market for men. As it's becoming more and more socially acceptable to become lesbian this will continue to make more and more women unavailable to men.

    Now let's look at the final nail in the coffin, procreation. Already many lesbian couples will simply opt for IVF or artificial insemination. As this becomes more widely available this will most likely cause more women who are bi-sexual to pick a female partner over a male partner. There are probably a good amount of women who are bi-sexual or lesbian who would have previously married a man simply for procreation purposes. Men have essentially been reduced to their sperm count. Once medical science can create a baby without natural sperm this will all but eliminate the need for men.

    So are we at or close to a point where men are no longer needed in society? As a woman would you be happier if you could only be in a female society with no males around? Should there be separate male and female societies? Have us men become obsolete?

    On that note as well, should us men just give up and let women control everything? Just go on government programs, drink, relax, play video games and partake in other recreational activities while the women do all the hard work? Give up all societal control to have a more relaxing life? Of course if this happens then women can no longer blame men for anything as we would be giving them what they have always wanted, complete control. Are women ready to be on the other end? Are they truly ready to have a matriarchy? Even if women don't want that should men start to leave society by choice?

    I would love reactions from both sides but especially from women.
     
  2. citygator

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    Who would open the jars and reach things on the top shelf?
     
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  3. cflgator83

    cflgator83 All American

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    Are you saying women aren't strong enough to do that? Seems like a pretty sexist thing to say. :)

    Point aside what do men currently offer society? Women at this point need men less and less. Are men obsolete? Should men and women form different societies? Should men just go ahead and withdraw from society?

    Would both sides (especially women) be better if the sexes were split apart?
     
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  4. uftaipan

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    More importantly, once we’re gone, whose fault is everything going be?
     
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  5. ThePlayer

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    The hired help.
     
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  6. AgingGator

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    Whose going to tell them which shoes to wear or whether that dress makes their ass look too big?
     
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  7. Spurffelbow833

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    Have you seen all the fat women in commercials lately? They'll be asking each other if the dress makes their ass big enough.
     
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  8. AgingGator

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    You seem to have bought into a lot of the horseshit that our society throws out as the way things should be.
     
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  9. gator_lawyer

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    LOL. If by "our society" you mean the forums for incels, you're right. Because this is the incel white nationalist dude who admitted that he used to post on a Neo-Nazi forum. And these are very much incel talking points.
     
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  10. AgingGator

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    True, but I think that if you give it some thought, incel forums, whatever they are, are not the only ones pedaling horsecrap like that.
     
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    And yet if you were conventionally attractive (not to be harsh, your words), you’d probably have yourself a woman that you wouldn’t feel you are settling for.

    I’d blame God (genetics) for that, not society.

    And if you aren’t attractive as you say, thinking you are “settling” because your partner also isn’t as physically attractive as you’d like, is entitlement.

    Humans have always had a sexual market value throughout different time periods in history.

    My advice would be to accept what lane you are in, work on bringing forth your best, and find someone who is kind to you and vice versa. We will all get old and unattractive anyways.
     
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  12. AgingGator

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    Good advice!
     
  13. BigCypressGator1981

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    I’ve given this a lot of thought. Men are responsible for the vast majority of violent crime and deplorable behavior in the world. Whenever something terrible happens we all begin speculating on what type of man did it - it’s not even a question regarding their gender. School shootings, murders, rape, war, physical abuse etc etc etc. it’s almost AWLAYS a man.

    Society should go for the Jurassic park method and only produce females. Keep a few men in cages to perpetuate the species as needed. This would solve 99% of the worlds ills including the end of war.

    I’m only half joking. I just have zero sympathy for men. The world has revolved around men since the dawn of time. I say let’s let the ladies take a stab at running things and see what happens.
     
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  14. AgingGator

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    It’s hard for me to have a bias that strong. Your points about men doing all/most bad things have merit. Yet, in many cases these men had some pretty screwed up childhoods with bad mothers leading the way.

    I have seen enough bad and good on both sides that it is hard for me to assign majority blame to either gender.
     
  15. vaxcardinal

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    Perhaps strip clubs have changed your view of attractive.
     
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  16. GCNumber7

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    You just stumbled upon a solution. ‘Become’ gay, date other incels. Problem solved! You are welcome.
     
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  17. BigCypressGator1981

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    Lol @ “bad mothers” being responsible for the evils of men. The female offspring of these same mothers don’t grow up to rape and murder. It’s a uniquely male trait.
     
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  18. GCNumber7

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    Agree that focusing on looks is the wrong long term strategy. And attractiveness comes in different packages.

    But the ironic part is, as someone who dated quite a bit in his 30s, I saw plenty of men in that age bracket date much more attractive women than them. A lot of women in that bracket have realized the wisdom of your post, and are perfectly willing to trade the handsome douche who cheats and won’t commit, for a kind guy that has his shit together and will make a good husband/father.

    But the key is having your shit together. If you are not bringing good looking genes to the table, bring something else. Personality, confidence, honesty, kindness, skills, financial and emotional stability. All highly valued by women, especially the women you actually want to date.

    Unfortunately for him, the OP clearly lacks on all these categories, and no woman is ever going to want to put up with his whiny victimhood, even if it came wrapped in a handsome package.
     
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  19. GatorFanCF

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    Excellent post. The most attractive thing about a person is what’s between their ears. Your (OP) thinking/worldview sucks and therefore your dating life sucks as well.

    Women and men balance each other out (in general) and to have only one sex - either way - would not be optimal.
     
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  20. AndyGator

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    Spend less time complaining and more time trying. You'll be much happier. And changing from a negative feel-sorry-for-yourself perception to a positive happy-to-be-alive attitude will do wonders for you as well.

    Just my two-cents.
     
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