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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. uftaipan

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    Understand the sentiment, but wholly unnecessary and unwise (given that Russia will almost certainly retaliate against anyone who attacks its vassal state). I agree with escalating our participation if Russia starts bringing in allies, but we can probably let Belarus implode politically without attacking any of their forces outside of Ukraine.
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    Zelensky’s whirlwind rock star tour is going to net him nine days of 155mm shells at current fire rate and a dud missile package. Dude doesn’t even have the courtesy to dress up for it.

    Patriot missile systems will help Ukraine's defense but experts caution they may have limited effect | CNN Politics

    Meanwhile, Putin quietly shores up his Western line by 500km, is increasing his army to 1.5 million men including 695k contract troops, adding two mechanized divisions, ramping up production, ordering dozens more hypersonic missiles, etc.

    Add: network news is swooning over Zelensky’s visit.
     
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  3. Gatorhead

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    Thank you and of course my sarcasm was taking a Putin script and being a bit more specific.

    Apparently he is not a Patriot fan and geeze, I thought everyone loves Bill Belichick.
     
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  4. slayerxing

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    DNI Skeptical Russia Can Reconstitute Effectively for Spring Offensive | Air & Space Forces Magazine
    - Russia’s ability to refit and reconstitute for an expected spring offensive in Ukraine is in some doubt, because of its inability to domestically produce the weapons it is using, according to Avril Haines, the Director of National Intelligence.

    https://www.criticalthreats.org/analysis/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-14
    -Russian combat power that was freed up following the withdrawal from the west (right) bank of Kherson Oblast has redeployed to various areas in Donbas, reinforced by mobilized reservists. Russian forces may additionally hope to launch an offensive in western Donetsk Oblast to build on marginal advances made in the Vuhledar-Pavlivka area in November.[14] ISW continues to assess that Russian forces seek to complete the capture of the entirety of Donetsk Oblast, and potential future offensives in western Donetsk Oblast may be intended to complement ongoing offensive drives on the western outskirts of Donetsk City and around Bakhmut to accomplish this wider territorial objective. However, despite the potential for new offensive operations, ISW continues to assess that Russian combat capability remains degraded and that Russian troops are highly unlikely to be able to take strategically-significant territory in the coming months.


     
  5. slayerxing

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  6. duggers_dad

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    Yay team!
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    Casualties for Russian troops are not high, relative to the nature of the conflict and neither are they poorly equipped.

    Western propaganda is like a wool blanket. It just puts people to sleep.
     
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  9. slayerxing

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    Meanwhile Russian propaganda gives everyone erections.
     
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  10. Sohogator

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    Standing O for Zelensky before the US Congress (not sure if MTG did).
    Nice to see.
     
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  11. slayerxing

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    Zelensky is really doing well with congress
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    Wish Congress listened to Americans.
     
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  14. slayerxing

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    That comment is literally in the link I posted above. But without the obvious trash talk.

    They are fighting a larger and more technologically advanced enemy - yes I'm sure they need every piece of weaponry they can get.

    This if from back in August -

    In five months of hard fighting the Ukrainians have lost around 230 tanks that analysts can confirm. But they’ve captured 280 Russian tanks and also have acquired around 300 fresh tanks from foreign allies.
    They had about 900 tanks at the start of the war - compared to like 6,000 for Russia.
    So yeah - THEY NEED MORE TANKS, lol.
     
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  15. Gatorhead

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    Great speech by Zelensky tonight. Inspiring.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Oryx has been thoroughly debunked. And until recent weeks Ukrainian troops vastly outnumbered Russian troops. You people need to make up your mind if Russia is a military superpower or bumbling ragamuffins with no socks.
     
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    Has Russia being a military super power ever been in question? No. What has been in question is how well they’ve prosecuted the war. I won’t even address that other constant drivel you post.
     
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  18. Gatorhead

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    It was also encouraging to see Congress showing a rare display of mutual partisanship toward a noble cause.
     
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  19. Gatorhead

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    Z is smart comparing Saratoga and Roosevelt's WW2 speech to the Ukrainians struggle against Putins tyranny. Very smart
     
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    Gaetz and Boebert were scrolling through their phones and refused to stand. They are an embarrassment. Shame on you, Pensacola.

     
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