No, I don't think I will. Showing that multiple studies reached the conclusion of high efficacy against transmission only proves that there may have been consistent flaws in the studies. What supports that is the extent of transmission among the vaccinated even after they were vaccinated. How much of that was due to variants in the coming months? I don't know. You seem to be suggesting all of it was. I don't think making that conclusion is reasonable, and I think this warrants a further look. You're just choosing to give the pharmaceutical companies the absolute benefit of the doubt so you can say you were right the whole time.
So poster is adamant that vaccine pandering and a Republican election going as predicted is the economic causation for Fl housing. Sure. Perhaps his hemorrhoids also predict stock market rallies as well. LOL
I know you never took an economics class, but there's this thing called supply and demand. When people move permanently to a place, demand goes up, when demand goes up, prices go up. I know this is very complicated stuff.
Yes, people used the term follow the science. But that was not Fauci bullying anyone like you stated and which I replied to. You and others have tried to make Fauci out to be a villain because you disagreed with the policies put in place based on the science that was being put forward at the time.
Nobody gives a single crap about your "starting point of a couple decades back." Your stance now is not a compromise. It's your stance. Our beliefs change and evolve over time. Trying to paint what you think is right as a "compromise" just perfectly encapsulates the absurdity of abortion conversations. I'm not going to continue wasting my time with this one, especially because you're just deflecting from DeSantis being idiotic clown and from people pointing out the incongruity of your stances.
Just look at this. That is shameful. That’s not moving the goal posts. That’s TN beats Bama tearing down the goal posts and moving them to frat row.
A bunch of retirees moving to a warm state with no state income taxes for their golden years says little to nothing about the Governors handling of the pandemic.
Cry. Cigarettes used to be physician approved because the "science" said that. Vaccines were said to be incredibly effective against transmission against COVID because the "science" said so. Then, we're supposed to reject the evidence of our eyes and ears and chalk up the rampant transmission that followed vaccination entirely to "well COVID changed." Then, we're supposed to say any investigation to look deeper into that is an embarrassment and a sham. THAT is pathetic and a product of such stubbornness, we can't even have a rational discussion.
I think it says something if DeSantis was going to kill them and they moved down here anyways. Makes you think he wasn't actually killing them.
Hey man. Dont want to have these conversations then how about not tagging me? I have mostly avoided DeSantis threads because of you in particular lately, but you needed the fight so bad you tagged me in. That's on you.
I'd avoid DeSantis threads too right now if I were you. Would hate to look in the mirror and realize I'm supporting another Trump.
Listen. I could do this all day. 'Cause I can go on busting you up all night. You should be embarrassed. I gave an example that exactly proved my point. I gave another example that reinforced. I noticed you deleted your response to the UK data so you known you’ve been busted. Just admit it. You lost this one. The more you fight it the more you look like a Q style antivax zealot. Surely there is a trans thread somewhere that you have better luck in.
The problem is if you are going to characterize abortion as murder, or extermination, or whatever term you may have used, you are put in a position where accepting some murders because of the circumstances. In this case rape. Murdering a baby born of rape is an acceptable compromise, although I doubt you think murdering an actual post birth baby is acceptable. So either you think all abortion is murder, or the equivalent, and you are willing to accept some murders as a “compromise” or else you don’t REALLY think it’s murder, and as such there are some things more important than the life of a fetus.
No, I deleted the post because I incorrectly said that you were citing Delta data. Though the link you offered provided Delta data, you weren't really making that point so I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole. You gave an example of more people/places citing efficacy against transmission being as high as 90%-95%, 100% in Africa. Yet, transmission was rampant. And you want to chalk ALL of that up to "COVID changed." And you're calling any investigation that raises scrutiny over that premise an "embarrassment." There is nothing I can say that will change your mind. You're going to take the pharmaceutical companies at their word and the clinical studies that back their word at face value despite all evidence in front of your eyes because "COVID changed" and because you'll do anything to reinforce the position that you are right, no matter the mental gymnastics it takes.
I'm vaccinated and support the vaccines, but because I think the medical establishment spread falsehoods to push the vaccine, and I opposed the lockdowns, I'm a Q style antivax zealot. Reasonable as usual.
Alright you can do this all day, now that I've refreshed your memory, do you accept that people used "follow the science" as a response to people who oppose lockdowns?
