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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    With apologies to Karen I’m consciously referring to the lack of evidence for pathogen and the massive evidence for panic. You yourself were paralyzed by fear.
     
  2. mdgator05

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    Was I? How did I react? Please be specific.
     
  3. duggers_dad

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    You were hesitant to go out in public and certainly not without a mask. And you white-knuckled it waiting for vaccines to be rushed out.
     
  4. mdgator05

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    Hmmm, went outside in public every single day. Strange you didn't know that before claiming you knew how I reacted. Also weird how you figured you knew my emotional reactions without even knowing my behavioral ones.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    I know you were frightened. Your vaccination status tells me so.
     
  6. mdgator05

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    This works for this as well:

    According to Karen R. Koenig, M. Ed, LCSW, projection refers to unconsciously taking unwanted emotions or traits you don't like about yourself and attributing them to someone else. A common example is a cheating spouse who suspects their partner is being unfaithful.

    I know you were frightened because you sought an answer to avoid the fear (viruses aren't real, so I don't need to be afraid!). And because you so desperately want to give me emotions that you have no clue whether I had or not.
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    Huh?

    My praise is for how he handled the pandemic. I am sure every governor had a company/person they worked closely with on it. But it is quite clear. Florida was far more correct and continues to be on the science and data for Covid.

    No way you would recommend a healthy young patient take a shot at this point. That would/should be seen as malpractice at this point. Yet that is the current recommendation by our idiot public health officials at the cdc. All the way to 6 months old. It is sick and honestly evil what is happening at the cdc and federal level for that matter. We still have some here say they support the terrible medicine that is. But reality is I would be surprised if they practiced it on their family.
     
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  8. duggers_dad

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    I scoffed at the notion of a rogue nanoparticle. You might call that foolhardy. But you can’t keep copy/pasting Karen for effect.
     
  9. mdgator05

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    Oh, but I can. You suddenly decided viruses didn't exist when a virus started to affect life and kill people. You retreated to the notion of viruses not existing (allowing you to avoid that fear) and then projecting fear onto everybody else. Even those you don't know.
     
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  10. QGator2414

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    Phil…you will not accept we are showing the best education results and our overall performance is on par and arguably better based on demographics.

    There is a reason people are moving here. We actually are following the science. From the beginning for that matter. Thank goodness DeSantis saw what happened in Italy. Thank goodness DeSantis saw what keeping kids out of school did. Thank goodness DeSantis saw the masks were nothing more than virtue for our kids. Etc etc etc
     
  11. QGator2414

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    To each their own. I would run from that pediatrician. But that is just me.
     
  12. QGator2414

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    The data speaks. Doctors are not pushing these drugs anymore. Sure a couple propagandists are. But any doctor practicing Medicine properly is not recommending a person who has had Covid or young and healthy get these shots at this point. Yet our idiot cdc says to. There is a reason people are not getting them. Because they have been lied to. And there is a reason the vast majority of doctors are not pushing them. Because they have been lied to. Now I do think pride is part of the problem for some here as I think some know they are wrong now but can’t let that be seen. But hey. You do you…
     
  13. mdgator05

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    Sure, but you never actually analyze it. You just say this empty phrase.

    This is, of course, false. Most doctors are still recommending Covid vaccines. As is every medical organization.

    Oh, fun, circular logic. Sure, doctors are recommending it, but not those practicing medicine properly, which you define as not recommending it. So all the doctors not recommending it, don't recommend it. Good find.

    Talk about projection here. I tried multiple times to address specific data sets with you. You never really engaged, because it challenged your beliefs. And your pride won't allow that. But hey. You do you...
     
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  14. philnotfil

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    Any data to support these claims?
     
  15. QGator2414

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    Doctors on the front lines are not recommending Covid shots by and large. Hence why so few are taking them now.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Vaccines are 100% for a certain demographic. The people they killed will never test positive for SARS-Cov2.
     
  17. mdgator05

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    And your evidence to show that the majority of "doctors on the front lines" (whatever that means) don't recommend vaccination is what, exactly?
     
  18. docspor

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  19. mdgator05

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    Why do you think the Governor barely mentioned the 8th Grade Scores? Could it be the 4 point decline in reading and 7 point decline in math?

    Talk about falling for propaganda. Rather than actually go to the data, you had the Governor tell you about it.

    NAEP Mathematics: Mathematics Highlights 2022
    NAEP Reading: Reading Highlights 2022
     
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