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When do season ticket holders exercise their NIL options?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Rkb75, Dec 5, 2022.

  1. Rkb75

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    Took your advice. Bought a boat today.

    ps not kidding
     
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  2. partdopy

    partdopy GC Hall of Fame

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    Some fans fall into that group and others into the group mentioned by Dr Tobias up there. Either way you look at it these changes aren't likely to expand the college fan base, especially not when combined with already shrinking attendance even among students.

    The college teams of tomorrow won't be college teams as much as using the branding to generate revenue through association. That will work on some but not all.

    If the Jacksonville jaguars decided to rebrand as the Florida Gators tomorrow I wouldn't follow them just because they paid licensing fees to use the school's colors. That's basically what is happening now.
     
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  3. Sulla

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    This was ultimately where this was going when Georgia and Oklahoma won a case to take television rights away from the sole control on the NCAA back in the 1980s.

    We could go to having "real" student athletes who have to meet all the same requirements as all the other students coming into UF and playing only for a scholarship any time the fanbase wants, but I have a feeling that getting our face kicked in every Saturday will probably change a lot of minds. In principle, people want the mythical, pure student athlete. In practice, they want to beat Georgia and LSU.

    All of this will eventually separate the "college" from the "football" in the name beyond the most superficial of connections, if dwindling interest from the next couple of generations who didn't grow up steeped in football culture to the same extent we did doesn't collapse the whole thing. One of those two things, if not one and then the other, is bound to happen.

    At least for now, the NCAA still takes their going to class and passing at least 12 hours of them a semester pretty seriously, judging from recent experience.

    It's kind of perfect really, a professional minor league that feeds the NFL and generates millions of viewers and billions in revenue in its own right. I imagine everyone will be living the dream for as long as it lasts.
     
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    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

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    That's not what is happening.
    Enrolled student athletes and making money, they still are students of the university.. once the newness of NIL settles down most players will stay at one school while a small percentage will leave for playing time. Attendance may be dropping but that's because so many more games are televised allowing you to be a fan from anywhere. UF graduates 10,000 alum every year that move around the country who will support with their eyes and dollars.
     
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  5. Matthanuf06

    Matthanuf06 GC Hall of Fame

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    College basketball has been in the one and done era for quite some time.

    In terms of name recognition the top players will still stay with their current teams. It’s the depth pieces that will generally cycle around schools until they find PT.

    3 years and pro has been the norm for elite college players for quite some time. NIL actually will increase players bypassing the draft IMO
     
  6. atlmover

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    Ditto...fish better go on a diet because I'll be feeding the heck out them.
     
  7. partdopy

    partdopy GC Hall of Fame

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    Yes, most players will settle at one school and all the best ones will settle at Alabama, Texas, OSU, Texas AM, LSU and the other top 10 spenders. This is already happening to a certain extent but will become even more entrenched so the have nots (bottom 110 out of 130 or so) might as well just form a new league as they won't be able to compete.

    Over the past 5 years CFP viewership declined alarmingly (Is a Lack of College Football Parity Hurting Television Ratings?) and students are more likely to watch soccer, with student attendance declining 7%>

    I understand you're a big fan of unrestricted NIL and consolidation of talent, but nothing indicates growth in fan bases as you say is happening.
     
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  8. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

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    I agree to a point but that happened decades ago. The majority aren’t making shit and are still just playing football for the last times in their lives.
     
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  9. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

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    I try to give them their last supper
     
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    The NCAA "fought" turning college sports into an incredibly lucrative enterprise making billions of dollars for themselves? You mean the NCAA that turned a blind eye to rampant cheating by high earning teams? That fought extending medical care to athletes? The NCAA that punished a school/coach for pay for a players family member to get medical while paying their president millions/year, paying athletic administrators millions/year, conferences the same, and coaches even more? The NCAA let coaches switch teams in the middle of the night but a 19 year old kid who wanted to transfer colleges was forbidden or required "special circumstances."

    The NCAA forfeited any claim to amateurism or protecting the integrity of the sport decades ago. The only thing the NCAA fought was to keep the players from joining the feeding frenzy of college football turned business. Is college football worse today than in the past? To me, yes. And the NCAA is the main culprit. Not the kids. Not the coaches.
     
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  11. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    Been going to games since 0-10-1. Probably couldn't tell you who the starters all were. Still enjoyed it.

    Went to UF - suffered through probation, run lindsay run, and the SOS years. Sat in the debacle in the desert, the 5th quarter in the 4th carter, and the OB beating OU.

    Laughed when our crew met Craig Sager in Bham one of those seasons for the SECCG.

    Bowl games, the butt kicking in Dallas, to the Peach bowl.

    I'm a gator always. Season tickets too. Is there some tarnish on the sport? Sure. So I don't sweat the portal, or care that much about some punk named Heitner. Hugh H or not, good for him.

    I know my butt will be sitting in a seat in Utah, plus game 1 in the swamp.

    I'm not going on ANY website to complain, or to say I'm done being fan.

    My spouse loves Auburn. Can't name 3 players on her team, but no one has the stones to give her grief. Played their damn fight song at our wedding reception. It's just about being a dang fan of a team you love. She does not care that AU QB Calzada is gone. She's pissed Cadillac was note kept. 100 games plus for her.

    I'll be done ... when I'm dead.

    Go gators
     
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  12. atlmover

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    I unintentionally eco fish
     
  13. Wanne15

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    That’s rough my man I’m sorry
     
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    The portal doesn't bother me a bit. Sometimes things just don't work out, certain coaches like other players better, and there Is no light at the end of the depth chart etc.

    What bothers me is random NIL from collectives just paying kids to pay them. It's garbage. And then really its players getting X thousands of dollars with zero accountability to even return the next season. If some random company wants to pay a kid to endorse a product that's on them and if they get a crappy return on an investment, they will stop in the future, but money from the collective seems to be a con to just pay to play.

    also have no idea but don't get how money paid to a collective could be considered the same as donation to non profit. this entire concept is for profit.
     
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  15. gatornee

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    Just like student loans…….