Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Ok, do you think viruses are real? A yes or no answer please. If you just give a yes or no answer with no digression, I’ll take a probiotic - pinkie swear.

 

I have never once said I thought they were not real. So not sure why you would ask this? But yes I think viruses are real.

 

Thanks. I just wanted to see where you stand with respect to Dad on this. I’ll take the probiotic- in fact I have been taking one for ages now.

 

Even some/many pharmaceutical interventions are gross overreach.

 

We got to get this thread up to 2020 pages.
That would be the fitting time to retire it.

 

Yes, you have provided talking points from some website that also did not read the paper I linked.

 

Which still doesn't answer the question. You claimed it is toxins. What toxin (or toxins), in specific, cause anthrax (the first viral disease mentioned)? Is all of this a long way of just admitting you don't have an answer to the question. And hoping nobody else notices.

 

It’s not the Gotcha question you imagine. Bacteria are typically found in the presence of toxins. They’re like firefighters!

 

You ready to move on ? I’m not.

 

Okay, so does the bacteria cause it or is it the toxins that do? Also, what toxins, specifically?

 

There have obviously been “anthrax attacks” and people have died. I don’t know what caused the deaths. I do know that for over a century germ theorists have asserted that firefighters cause fires.

 

Conversely, “Hey, why aren’t you following the herd ? You must be going the wrong way!”

 

Weirdly when they created antibiotics the diseases ended. But whose to say what caused the disease.

 

Imagine seeing pathogenic diseases eliminated by antibiotics and still thinking there's no clear association between the bacteria and the disease.

That takes some monumental cognitive dissonance.

 

yep. I can’t quite fathom how so many are antivax and anti science. There was a time vast majorities continued to think the world is flat.
A big issue now is the internet. Many spend literally hours going down rabbit holes of blogs of random self proclaimed experts and reading sites like qanon.

 

Antibiotics heal disease ? We know they can disrupt eliminative processes, also known as symptoms.