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Sinema leaving the Democratic Party and registering as an independent

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Dec 9, 2022.

  1. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

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    I’m certainly not part of the Democratic Party (nor the Republican Party), but I have not read a word of panic in the Democratic ranks. They are coming off a successful election and good news after good news in the national and international front. Any suggestion of “panic” is likely sourced through alt-right garbage publications.
     
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  2. tampajack1

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    Assuming that she runs for reelection as an independent in 2024, how will that affect the likelihood of a Democratic candidate or Republican candidate beating her?
     
  3. G8tas

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    Meh not really. Dems still control the Senate and she showed that she was a corporate pawn a couple years ago
     
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  4. Sohogator

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    See the aforementioned Ruben Gallego. He’s going to steamroll his way to victory.
     
  5. BLING

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    As much of Biden’s agenda was passed, I guess in the end she did vote with the dems the vast majority of the time. Curious her main points of contention seemed to be a few GOP donor class and tax issues (didn’t she basically hold the line on carried interest taxation, certainly an odd place for a dem to choose a line in the sand).

    I’m not familiar with how popular/unpopular she is, but if a dem primaried her a good candidate could still hold that seat in AZ. Unlike Manchin where if he were primaried out it would certainly hand the seat to a Republican (and out of WV, most likely a far right extremist Republican).
     
  6. BobK89

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    Interesting here. This was a top story at 6am on CNN today when I was the gym. NOT the case on Fox, where they focused on Twitter again.
     
  7. VAg8r1

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    She indicated that she wants to keep her committee assignments which means that she will end up caucusing with the Democrats not unlike Bernie Sanders and Angus King the other two Independents in the Senate.
     
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  8. Spurffelbow833

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    How so beyond that of any person's interest in their own career or their own values? Just because she doesn't tick all of yours or this forum's boxes doesn't make her more self-serving than the crowd she has chosen to distance herself from. We need more like her, not fewer.
     
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  9. swampbabe

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    She's a tool of corporate interests.
     
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  10. Sohogator

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    You apparently know nothing about her. She’s a lousy senator unless you’re a hedge fund manager or big donor.
     
  11. AzCatFan

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    Sinema has seemed to annoy both sides. D's because she isn't liberal enough. R's because she is a D. Going independent but still caucusing with the D's probably won't change things in the state.

    Meanwhile, rumors of the D's running Ruben Gallego to try and primary Sinema have been swirling for several months. Gallego is a Harvard educated, former Marine who has represented a chunk of Phoenix in the House since 2015. Gallego would be hard to beat in 2024, and my guess in Sinema decides to retire instead of running again.
     
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  12. VAg8r1

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    Or to put in another way, like a majority of members of Congress she is bought and paid for by the contributors to her political campaigns the primary example being her position on ending the carried interest loophole.
    How Wall Street wooed Sen. Kyrsten Sinema and preserved its multibillion-dollar carried interest tax break
    What Republicans and SCOTUS defend as "free speech" is nothing more than legalized bribery and although it will probably never happen what is needed is a Constitutional amendment allowing Congress and state legislatures the authority to regulate campaign contributions.
     
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  13. WarDamnGator

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    I doubt that. She was never someone the democrats could count on.
     
  14. WarDamnGator

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    I would assume she’d mostly split the democrat votes and give the republicans and easy win. But I don’t know, Arizona liked McCain so maybe they’ll support a new “maverick”….
     
  15. Trickster

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    That’s unfortunately the state of things in Congress - very dysfunctional. Nothing exemplifies that more than most in the GOP opposing an expedited road to citizenship for immigrants who served the country in the military.
     
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  16. Trickster

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    I don’t always agree with her, but we could use more people in Congress who vote on issues rather than always on party. We need more compromise on the thorny issues, such as immigration.
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    look no further than her holdout for the elimination of the increased tax on the hedge funds deferred earnings
     
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  18. G8trGr8t

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    I would say the impeachment votes were the biggest indicator that party now comes before country. Of all the rotten thigns DT left for us, the loss of the separation of powers may be the most damaging. When POTUS doesn't fear impeachment, there seem to be few limits on how far the executive branch can overstep.
     
  19. rivergator

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    Lede story on Fox website now. “Liberals throw tantrum …”:)
     
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  20. HeyItsMe

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    That’s rich coming from Fox. The midterms were nothing but throwing a temper tantrum going “WHY WASN’T THERE A WAVE!?!”
     
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