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POLL: Should the US trade Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Jul 27, 2022.

Should the US trade Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner?

  1. yes

    23 vote(s)
    16.1%
  2. no

    120 vote(s)
    83.9%
  1. danmanne65

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    One time. Putting locks on the cabin doors solved that and we use that as an excuse to do so many unamerican things.
     
  2. citygator

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    He was there the entire Trump administration. But I guess politics says Biden left him there. Come. On. Man.
     
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  3. gatordavisl

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    FTR, I don't feel this was a good trade, but your opinion here is out of line, imo.
     
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  4. citygator

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    All Americans didn’t save her ass. A bunch in here want her back in lock up. She should thank Biden. He’s taking the heat from the balanced group of folks that hate his guts and wanted Pence to wave off his election. That one dude in here lost his marbles and would be at the capital with a pitchfork if asked.
     
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  5. citygator

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    That out of line opinion…
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  6. tilly

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    I get it... But some of those things may have limited it... But regardless this guy could lead to one atg attack to many.
     
  7. tilly

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    Is that a lib I see in the agree lineup?
     
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  8. mrhansduck

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    My understanding is that she was born a girl, identifies as a woman, and was even housed in a womens' prison. Not sure why you are calling her trans.
     
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  9. tilly

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    It was probably politics with Trump too. Trump likely thinks he is a loser like POWs are.
     
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  10. obgator

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    I remember you handing out annual Too Hot awards? this has to be the runaway “rant of the year” winner
     
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  11. G8trGr8t

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    why was she so much more important than Marc Fogel?
     
  12. gatordavisl

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    Just some snapshots from this interesting rant . . .

    Not really necessary to respond. This speaks for itself.
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

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    why do you keep framing it as if both sides in the conflict are of the same moral character? Does it matter if one is a murdering, raping POS and the other is a good person trying to defend their home? You continue to refuse to discuss that differential as if it doesn't exist
     
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    The hateful nut jobs among us say it’s because she’s black and trans.

    Its pathetic but there it is….
     
  15. G8trGr8t

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    why do you think she is so much more important? is it strictly because she is an athlete? There is absolutely no justifiable reason why Fogel has been left there and Griner brought home other than politics and that is a chitty reason
     
  16. gatordavisl

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    Yeah, but you will miss out on some good laughs . . . just sayin'
     
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  17. gatorpa

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    Sadly if they really vent at the current Admin their chances go down that he ever comes home.
     
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  18. gatorpa

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    Yeah they do miss out on tank and rocket sales though.
     
  19. gatordavisl

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    Not necessarily. There is a humanitarian aspect at play. While I'm on record stating that it's a bad trade, I appreciate how some have put it that it's a bad trade, but the right decision. It shouldn't be dismissed as politics, imo.
     
  20. okeechobee

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    I mentioned this a few pages back and I'll say it again. Not a Biden defender here, but if you think of this from Putin's point of view, he's going to give up a female basketball player a lot faster than he will a captured American soldier. I'm not saying Biden turned a miracle here, but this legitimately may have been the best he could do. It's also possible Putin was facing some internal pressure to release her since she was a basketball player who many fans enjoyed watching there, ie wasn't there in combat at the time of arrest. It sucks for Fogel and his family, no doubt, but I think this had more to do with what Putin was willing to do and in the end, getting someone back is better than no one.
     
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