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How China's Military Views the United States

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by chemgator, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. chemgator

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    This article estimates how many would become infected and how many would die in China if China lifts the Covid restrictions without bringing in western vaccines. Numbers are over 200 million infected, and 1.5 - 2.1 million dead. Hospital intensive care units could be overloaded by a factor of 15 (times their capacity).

    Factbox-How many people might die, and why, if China loosens COVID restrictions

    Hard to see Xi's hold on power surviving that kind of death rate. The longer he refuses to use western vaccines, the longer has to keep people on Covid restrictions, and the more the economy suffers. Add in the fact that the U.S. and Europe (and Australia and Canada)--China's highest paying customers--no longer trust China, and it may take decades for China's economy to fully recover to pre-pandemic levels.
     
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    Hysteria
     
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    After eight long years it’s finally been unveiled! Er, a picture of the B-21 Raider, pinnacle of air achievement for America and supposedly a shot across the bow for China.

    It MAY fly next year and is slated to enter service in 2026-28 which means 2029.

    It costs $700 million a plane IF 100 are purchased.

    It looks spooky, but stealth has been rendered irrelevant and can only be used as a platform to launch stand-off missiles from a safe distance ...
     

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    You are good at this game...
     
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  5. chemgator

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    More on the computer chip issue. The $500 billion industry is set to be worth a trillion dollars by the end of the decade. China is not happy that the U.S. is freezing them out of the high-tech chip technology. Taiwan is the global leader with 90% of the high-tech chip production. There are 81 new chip factories being built in the 2021-2025 time frame, with 21 of them being assembled in Taiwan (they are really serious about this!), 14 in the U.S., and 10 in Europe. It didn't mention what size the chip factories were, or what the total chip production capacity would be, however. It also didn't say whether the "facilities" were new factories or expansions of existing factories.

    Global Semiconductor Race Is Turning Into a War

     
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    I read a long article on chip production the other day. We can build the plants, but the institutional knowledge doesn’t reside here. There is a whole supply chain for the necessary parts, usually close to the final plant would have to be built. We are probably a minimum of 10 years behind Taiwan on the cutting edge stuff.
    But China is too.
     
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    Is the US this crazy ? I’m afraid it might be ...

     
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    The US defeating China militarily is a wet dream for neocons, a pipe dream for the Pentagon.

    US ships couldn’t get closer than 1,000 miles before exposing themselves to ship-killing missiles.

    That leaves cruise missiles, but the US doesn’t have enough to do more than negligible damage, provided a goodly percentage even get through.

    China hasn’t exactly been twiddling its thumbs the last couple of decades.
     
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  9. chemgator

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    More on China's lending to Africa. This article says China may have caught itself in a debt trap of its own making. China owns 12% of African countries' debt, which has increased from $140B to $700B. African countries have become more assertive about not paying debt and NOT allowing China to seize their natural resources.

    China May Have Created Trap for Itself With African Lending

     
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    An African dignitary recently said, “When China comes we get a hospital. When the US comes we get a lecture.”
     
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    U.S. aid to African countries is often in the form of private charities and Peace Corps volunteers. They build schools, and provide drinking water (without having to walk for miles balancing a giant water jug on your head) and teach sustainable ways of living. Hospitals are much more expensive than schools. China would not be building hospitals if there weren't a profit motive (from loan repayment plus access to natural resources). The U.S. doesn't do "profit motive" donations, generally speaking.
     
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    China still struggles with basic workplace safety measures, demonstrated by these women cleaning apartment windows on the 11th floor in Songyuan (northeast of Beijing). I'm surprised the window ledges weren't covered in ice in December that far north.

    Women cleaning skyscraper windows without harnesses shocks Chinese netizens

     
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    It just lays waste to countries.
     
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    China officially has no Covid deaths recently. However, dozens of hearses are lined up at a Beijing crematorium. The crematorium's parking area was full, and another 40 hearses were lined up down the street. It's almost like China's government doesn't tell the truth.

    Hearses queue at Beijing crematorium, even as China reports no new COVID deaths

     
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    Covid first virus in history in which, if you hide from it, it just hangs around and waits for you when you finally come out.
     
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    Kind of like your posts. :)
     
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    In response to language in our NDAA.

     
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    Some great detail on the A4 protest, the social power of the blank piece of white paper, and opportunities to apply to use your investment expertise for implementation of the CHIPS Act.

    Especially interesting was the rioting at Foxconn.

    Then there was the second revolt and riot at Foxconn in Zhengzhou. At that time, after the first wave of Foxconn workers fled, Zhengzhou’s city government and the Henan provincial government helped Foxconn recruit people from all over the country. As a result, more than 100,000 people were recruited at once. Afterwards, people were dissatisfied with sudden, frequent policy changes, and the [second] riot at Foxconn eventually broke out. This riot was the beginning of the national resistance movement. I think this riot had a very big impact.






    China's Protests Mattered
     
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    Twitter can play a big constructive role. I wish I was more confident it will

    The CCP can't control Twitter, but it can control Chinese people’s internet usage. Lately, you can see that controls over VPNs have been tightened gradually. That is the next step for the CCP going forward. They must do everything they can to cut off the influence of Twitter in mainland territories, as well as other overseas platforms such as YouTube, in order to stop the influence of Western social media on domestic political activities and social movements. This is the first point.
     
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    Western countries are starting to remove China from their supply chains due to Chairman Xi's Covid policies and their effect on factory production. The main beneficiaries appear to be India, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, and Bangladesh.

    China is losing its place as the center of the world's supply chains. Here are 5 places supply chains are going instead. (yahoo.com)