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The 2024 GOP front runner wants to terminate The Constitution…

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    The first part of you post makes no sense. I work for a major non profit. Most people here know that. My argument about tax status for non profits is based on that.

    The fact that people think churches should be taxed while ignoring the fact that they run the majority of food and homeless shelters in our country is insane to me.

    But I've explained what I meant by "democracy" in a micro sense clearly... Multiple times in this thread. You repeating the same thing other posters said already has little impact on the thread.
     
  2. Trickster

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  3. dangolegators

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    Exactly. He's equating the right losing on some cultural issues to threats to democracy. Total false equivalency.
     
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  4. l_boy

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    I just replied to what you posted. I’ve yet to see you articulate any threat to democracy, only grievances of losing political power.
     
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  5. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Neither is separation of church and state but that doesnt stop people from posting 8t routinely as fact. ;)

    I understand that it is not a constitutional right. I apologize for categorizing it as such.
     
  6. tilly

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    No you havent. Lol. Irt Gay marriage, I literally said the opposite.

    I have no political party to want power for.
    I was explaining... AGAIN.. what many see as an afront to their rights too and that voting against a side is not an automatic support for Trump.
     
  7. Sohogator

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    I can’t speak to o one post that I didn’t read 2 years ago but if it’s anything like the “shots “ you took at Trump today it was the stuff of milquetoast
     
  8. sierragator

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    When they become tax free political action organizations, they open themselves up to criticism.
     
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  9. defensewinschampionships

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    I've left every church I've been to that became political. The Sunday before the previous election, our pastor simply said: "Tuesday is election day. I encourage you to vote. Now turn in your bibles to Matthew . . . "
     
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  10. mdgator05

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    If that is happening, it is fascinating that all the awfulness of Trump didn't seem to affect his popularity with Republicans. Only the losing did. Kind of like how Bush lost a lot of Republican support after 2006, despite having nearly universal support prior to that loss.
     
  11. VAg8r1

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    I would also add that in the case of Trump while he has lost the support of a fair percentage of the Republican Party's establishment he still has the support of the majority of its rank and file members. In virtually every poll conducted subsequent to the midterms Trump still remains the choice for the party's 2024 presidential nominee among self-identified Republican voters .
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  12. rtgator

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    What has actually been done by Dems regarding "doing away with the Electoral College"?

    Certainly nothing as bad as this . . . .

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  13. rtgator

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  14. rtgator

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    To his credit, Kemp backed up Raffensperger by standing up against Trump's intense pressure to falsify the 2020 election results in Georgia.

    Would DeSantis do the same??? Given his authoritarian actions against Disney, BLM protests, immigrants, public education, LGBTQ rights and voting rights, I suspect he would be sympathetic to efforts to steal an election if it benefited him.
     
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  15. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    One post...lol. Good Lord man. I can find like 50 in the last 3 months....
    Did you miss my Pence thread rippint Trump?

    I've called him a traitor, and evil human being, a liar, a fraud, a fake Christian, a predator, a cheat, a terrible husband, a terrible dad, perhaps some of the honest left posters will click the agree here to show you?

    I have said probably 30 times that I will never look my daughters in the eyes and try to explain my vote for him again.

    I openly called for his impeachment.

    Here are posts just from the past couple months...and there are many MANY more...

    Edit: @Sohogator... Is that enough of should i give you more?
     
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  16. tilly

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    Where have I defended the GOP in this regard?
     
  17. citygator

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    Charlotte
    The actual collections of churches goes to running the church. It’s an interesting argument whether they should be tax exempt or not. Certainly charity work makes sense but there isn’t much charity happening with your church donation. There are separate organizations that a church partners with that actually do the charity. Churches are like middlemen. That’s not a universal statement but it is the norm.

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  18. BLING

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    This “logic is how we get to Donald Trump.
    W’s approval was down to like 25% on the way out the door. Trump seemed to always have that loyal 40% locked in. In both cases you wonder how it could be anything but 0%.

    Hard to tell whether the explanation is purely “it’s a cult” as W’s failures hit people in the pocketbook more. But then again “the cult” didn’t care about Trump’s bungling of the pandemic, which wasn’t without economic consequence in its own right.
     
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    John Bolton so inflamed by Trump that he’s considering getting into the race.

    FINALLY, we’ll have an option for nuclear annihilation.
     
  20. rivergator

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    Actually, as others have pointed out, the right to privacy isn't mentioned in the Constitution, though the USSC has said some amendments do assure that right. But, as we know, court rulings can change.
    Beyond that, I'm seeing no connection between who is in the locker room and democracy. The word does have a meaning:
    Strangers of the same sex seeing you naked is democracy but those of the other sex seeing you is not? That has nothing to do with a system of government.
     
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