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How soon until the next measles outbreak?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8tas, Dec 5, 2022.

  1. G8tas

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    Nearly 40 million children are dangerously susceptible as measles threat grows

    UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — Measles vaccination coverage has steadily declined since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a report published on Nov. 23 by the World Health Organization (WHO), the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and several university researchers, including Matthew Ferrari, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Dynamics at Penn State. Specifically, in 2021, a record high of nearly 40 million children missed a measles vaccine dose, with 25 million children missing their first dose and an additional 14.7 million children missing their second dose.

    The team noted that the decline is a significant setback in global progress toward achieving and maintaining measles elimination and leaves millions of children susceptible to infection.

    “Measles is one of the most contagious human viruses and can be quite serious if there aren’t sufficient resources to manage symptoms,” said Ferrari, who has worked with the WHO for the last 10 years to estimate the global burden of measles cases. “In under-resourced settings, as many as 5% of children infected with measles could die, and the likelihood of severe outcomes is higher in younger kids.”

    Nearly 40 million children are dangerously susceptible as measles threat grows | Penn State University
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    When American anxiety appears to have bottomed out. A new scare will be ramped up.
     
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  3. buckeyegator

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    as soon as phizer or moderna run out of covid profits.
     
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  4. citygator

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    Natural selection. Children of conservative science deniers will pay the price.
     
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  5. tilly

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    Never a peep from your side about the generations of liberal anti vax folks wearing their Birkenstocks to the granola fair.
     
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  6. citygator

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    Pre Covid study (2015) on vaccine resistance shows very little partisan impact - I bet that’s not the case now. (Jenny McCarthy just had a platform of fame not supported by Dems).


    “But really, political ideology didn’t have a large overall impact on vaccine denial in the study. The study found that the really big contributor to distrusting or disliking vaccines was not political ideology ideology at all, but rather, having a conspiratorial mindset, which can occur on both the left and the right.

    Here’s a figure from Kahan’s paper, helpfully comparing how views of guns, climate change, marijuana legalization, and vaccines all shift as you move across the political spectrum. Views on vaccines show by far the least variability, compared with these other much more politicized topics:”

    718BC7BF-36BF-49BA-8F49-89AC53EBBD3C.jpeg

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-that-theyre-all-a-bunch-of-hippie-liberals/
     
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  7. PerSeGator

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    There was pretty solid, bi-partisan ridicule of anti-vaxxers back before COVID. Even icons like Steve Jobs got dunked on for idiotically rejecting modern medicine in favor of granola and fruit (and often dying because of it).
     
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  8. tilly

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    Thats my point. When anti vax wasnt just a "conservative" talking point we never heard anything. Now that it is we make darwin cracks about dead kids.
     
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  9. tilly

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    I meant on this board by certain posters who relish in it these days.
     
  10. Trickster

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    Measles is not a virus, and no one, not even the experts, can convince me otherwise. Parents, don’t fall for the fake news warnings!!! Don’t have your precious little ones vaccinated!!! Stick up for your RIGHTS!!!
     
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  11. PerSeGator

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    Ah. I honestly don't remember who said what regarding vaccines on this board pre-COVID. I do generally remember plenty of left-wing pushback on the whole "vaccines cause autism" nonsense that was percolating. If not here, certainly elsewhere in liberal-leaning places like Reddit.
     
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  12. Trickster

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    Tilly, I haven’t done a study, and until Covid, never gave much thought about a relationship between political beliefs and vaccinations. However, based just on the posts on this board, it seemed to me the conservative posters were by and large the deniers. However, based on the chart above, there seems to be no correlation.
     
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  13. tilly

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    Rarely venture to Reddit.. its just always been a known thing that antivax was not some right wing thing prior to covid.

    FTR, its scary that covid may have done permanent damage to vax reputations due to the plethora of misinformation that came out.

    Sad and scary.
     
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  14. tilly

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    I think irt Covid it was vastly a right wing thing sadly. Bad sources, selfish motives by RW media etc.

    I was speaking of a historical trend prior to covid.

    There is no debate how covid percentages break sadly
     
  15. obgator

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    When some of the most liberal folks in California were not vaccinating their kids against measles during the outbreak in 2014/2015, we were calling them out too.

    Here’s Jon Stewart tearing them
    Les Measlesrables - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart | Comedy Central US
    Comic Jon Stewart pricks unvaccinated Marin

    ““We live here in Marin County, which is a liberal place,” she explained. “It’s a well-educated group of people. It’s a thoughtful group of people,” she added. “I think if parents are choosing not to vaccinate, it’s probably for a reason.”

    Stewart dismissed her, deadpanning, “They’re not rednecks. They’re not ignorant people. They practice a mindful stupidity.”

    The comic’s pitch was a serious one: “If your crazy wellness ideas only affected you, I’d be fine with that … (but) your choice puts other people in jeopardy.””
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Measles Kills Billions: Republicans Hardest Hit
     
  17. citygator

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    For the record I’m against dead kids. That’s why I’m for the measles vaccines.

    We didn’t hear much about it back then because credible political leaders weren’t out trying to undermine them. Surely you grasp that?
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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