The 2024 GOP front runner wants to terminate The Constitution…

So you think wanting everyone to have health care is going off the deep end???

Universal healthcare would end up cheaper per capita because it would eliminate the huge insurance bureaucracy and huge profits at sick peoples' expense.

 

I think it was sarcasm.

 

I was going to say more or less the same thing.

While most R politicians probably recognize the cancer that is Trumpism, they are afraid to speak out because he will lash out and turn his minions against you in the primaries.

It is a no-win situation for the pubs, and I'm not upset about that at all.

 

Legal question here: could the GOP deny Trump's application to run as president for their party? Whatever outrage aside, I'm just curious if they could legally do this or does the GOP have to let him run as GOP? If they can block his application to run, then they should certainly consider it. Unsure if that's a legal possibility though.

 

I think you are going to be sorely disappointed when you find out that more Republicans support Trump than any other Republican, even when placed against other Republicans. Look at the primaries in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire, and just about every swing state you could name that had contested primaries in 2022 with the partial (but not complete) exception of Georgia. Trump candidates winning all of them, even when the local figures acknowledged that they were weak candidates. How do you suppose that happened if the majority of Republicans aren't Trump supporters?

 

A bit of a meltdown…

 

You see me repeat this, but have never seen my reasons? Thats pretty selective

I have done so many times.

Look no further than people here who say that they will not show "tolerance of the intolerant" while claiming they are the ones who decide what we must be tolerant of. That attitude creates a danger for religious liberty (for starters). See the Colorado baker case, see anyone speaking out about the locker room issue in Charlotte. (The largest city in my state violating women's rights to privacy by allowing men to shower in women's locker rooms. )

The constant inaccurate and ignorant view of church/state that many on the left try to push is scary. Many even being completely ignorant of non profit classification and why it must be protected.

Forcing people to buy health care... (i support health care fyi) but many question its constitutional position.

Attacks on the electoral college.

Many view abortion as a violation of basic human rights.

Trust me. We have a list of concerns. You likely mock those concerns, but that does nothing to diminish them. It actually heightens the concern.

And fyi, i will not rehash these debates for the 100th time here. You just asked, so I felt obligated to refresh.

....and for clarity. I fully get why people find the orange guy a threat as well. He is a huge problem

 

Hilarious

 

Good Lord, I hope the right gets its head on straight sooner than later. So sick of this clown.

 

I'm sure that many or most Democrats tend to have a more restrictive view of the Second Amendment than many or most Republicans. And I suppose if you really look you could find someone here or there who would like to scrap it completely. But it's pretty ridiculous to claim that Democrats as a whole want to toss it.

As far as the First Amendment, despite claims like yours, I've seen no evidence that Democrats are more hostile to the amendment than Republicans. DeSantis, for example, wants to limit by law what companies are allowed to say to their employees about diversity? And how many times has Trump talked about jailing journalists? And does that fit with your claim? Can you explain?

 

What is?

 

The hoops being jumped through.

 

Not one of those positions is a threat to democracy. Even in theory. They are policy differences. Democracy is not threatened because you don't like which bathroom a trans person is allowed to use.

 

Nah man. Letting a dude shower in a women's locker room is an attack on democracy.

Telling artists ehat content to put on their art is an attack to democracy.

Doing away with the Electoral College is a shot at democracy.

These are all things that are really being discussed and/or happening.

Lets all be honest. We all seem pretty ok with the attacks that support our side.
And act like they arent attacks if ot benefits us.

I have long said that Christian faith is at odds with the constitution and that for both to coexist, the constitution has to be left to stand for all. Its why I have a different take on gay marriage from a constitutional standpoint than I do from a faith standpoint. (As I have discussed many times here.)

But concerns over liberty exist on both sides. Lets all be honest enough to admit that and maybe some decorum can return.

 

When I say democracy is threatened, i mean at the level of personal impact that it has on a voter., And the effort by those of either side of an issue to bully the other into submission.

Our system of democracy grants freedom of expression in ones art. It grants that all people are equal. (We believe the unborn are included). It grants many things that we see threatened.

Again. Lets stop acting like only one side can honestly vote based on fear in this regard.

 

How in the world does that have anything to do democracy?

 

The right of privacy is democratic.
The right of expression (speach) is democratic. They are both pillars of a democracy.

We disagree on if they are a real issue or not. Thats fine. But they are an issue to half of the country.