No Red Wave

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To the contrary, there was a Red Wave ...

Actually, There Was a 'Red Wave' in the 2022 Midterm Election

 

sez the Heartland Institute on the Red State site. They also claim smoking won't hurt you and climate change is not happening. So ........

The Heartland Institute is an American conservative and libertarian public policy think tank known for its rejection of both the scientific consensus on climate change and the negative health impacts of smoking.
Founded in 1984, it worked with tobacco company Philip Morris throughout the 1990s to attempt to discredit the health risks of secondhand smokeand lobby against smoking bans.[4][5]: 233–234 [6] Since the 2000s, the Heartland Institute has been a leading promoter of climate change denial

Heartland Institute - Wikipedia

 

Repost from the humor thread.

 

Lack of Red wave causes moron Jesse Waters to pay international truth bedrock reporting icon a grand.

 

Sad. Garbage in = garbage out. Seems there are a few garbage collectors on this site.

 

I don’t think actual CRT was being taught in grade schools, and that whole thing was greatly exaggerated, but nonetheless the whole movement that has been crudely described as “wokeness” has produced a lot of blowback among centrists and suburbanites. Youngkin shows that more moderate and sane republicans can win.

The underperformance of republicans in the midterms can be explained by abortion and a bevy of terrible MAGA candidates. Even conservative republicans who distanced from Trump did quite well. Brian Kemp for example. He did far better vs Abrahms this time around vs 4 years ago. The problem for republicans is it is hard to win a primary without being MAGA.

As to abortion, a vast majority of Republican politicians support banning nearly all abortion, with some allowing for exceptions of rape or incest. Virtually no Republican politician supports the Roe framework. Again, it is about winning the primary.

I’m not sure about a majority, but a non trivial share of Republican voters probably do support some sort of abortion rights. However as indicated above, not so much Republican politicians. The issue is in the past republican politicians were protected by Roe, they could take extreme positions on abortion and it didn’t matter because of Roe. Now that Roe has fallen, the Republicans are like the dog that “catches” the car. It will be interesting to see how Republicans adapt.

I’m not sure winning the house was “huge”. The net result of a narrow win is most of the swing state sane republicans lost, and what you are left with is a greater share of nutjobs. Amazingly MTG has a growing amount of power and influence. The house will likely get bogged down with crap like investigations into Hunter Biden, which most Americans don’t really care about. They may try to shut the government down or default on govt obligations, which are never popular positions. Instead of tacking to the center the House will look and act nuttier than ever, and McCarthy is completely inept and helpless to control it.

I’m not sure that so many policies were bad policies in the minds of most. Afghanistan exit was a cluster, yet I’ve not seen anybody articulate a clearly better alternative. The withdrawal was already put in motion prior to Biden, and we had been there 20 years with little to show for it. At some level many Americans likely understood that. To be clear, the optics did hurt Biden.

As to Covid, on the good side, Biden seemed to being a degree of competence to trying to manage the crisis vs Trump mostly denying it. But the fiscal response was excessive, and some restriction policies not popular.

I have to disagree on this. Trump and his acolytes made it clear that any election he lost was fraudulent, and should be overturned by any means necessary. He said it in 2016 and he said it in 2020. He did everything could to overrun election controls and institutions. The saving grace is he is an idiot and incompetent and failed at every level. But he leaves a non trivial minority of supporters who have bought into his rantings hook line and center. We are lucky that when our democracy was challenged it was by an idiot like Trump vs a far smarter (and more evil ) leader like Hitler.

The fact of the matter is the more people that vote, on balance this helps the Democrats. The result is Republicans want to restrict voting around the margins, and Democrats want to do everything they can to get votes in. Republicans rant and rave about mostly non existent voter fraud and Democrats use ridiculous language like Jim Crow 2.0 when republicans want to revert to election laws 4 years ago.

Totally agree on this. I’m one of those voters. I will never ever support a Republican who wants to outlaw nearly all abortions including early term abortions. For the first time in 20 years I would potentially support the likes of a Romney or Kasich, but they aren’t the Republican Party these days. While I favored the Roe construct, I could live with a 15 week abortion law.

I totally agree on the student loan thing, and of the Biden policies, that is the one I disagree with the most vehemently. Others I disagree with I can at least understand the rationale. Likely he knew it was unconstitutional but did it anyway to jazz younger voters, and by all accounts it worked.

You have a lot to say about terrible Democrats and their innuendo but don’t seem to have much to say about the majority of Republican politicians who followed Trump and his even more ridiculous lies. And at least until recently generally a majority of Republicans had favorable impressions of Trump, so I’d say Republicans need to look inward before worrying about the Democrats.

The sad state of affairs is that if either party would be willing to tack to the center they would crush the other party but their respective bases will not allow it.

 

I’m confused. Was losing Georgia again part of the red wave? Bwahahaha

 

Election denial. Climate Change denial. Covid denial. This is how five year olds talk.

 

I must admit that, a scant few years ago, I would never have predicted that GA would turn light blue and FL fire engine red.

 

Fair but had you seen the GOPs move towards crazytown rhetoric which aligns with Floridaman crazy you might not have been as surprised on Florida. Georgia is surprising.

 

Every dipshit in the country moved to Florida during the pandemic. If it weren’t for gator football and some remaining family I’d be fine with excising the infected limb and pushing it out into the Gulf of Mexico.

 

I’ve been longing for that to happen, removing the appendage from the source of the infection, so I can move back.

 

And Joe and the Democratic Party can thank Biden's defeated opponent in the 2020 presidential election for that result. Were it not for Trump's personal selection of the Republican nominees in several senatorial elections not to mention the decision of a significant percentage of Republican voters to blindly follow his lead the Republicans would have been able to hold Pennsylvania, probably would have flipped Georgia and Nevada and would have had a good shot at flipping Arizona and New Hampshire.

 

That's a bit misleading. Trump had a net gain of 2 senators in 2018.

 

Yeah, it could be true if they lost one but gained three seats, for example, but it is a misleading way to state it. Maybe a better way to state it is every incumbent Democrats won/held every seat.

 

New reporting about Brnovich and his election fraud investigation.

Ex-Arizona attorney general buried report disproving Trump election fraud claims

The staff report [by the Arizona Attorney General's office] found that “virtually all” the claims of “error and malfeasance” floated by Trump-backed groups claiming his loss to Joe Biden in 2020 was tainted to be completely unfounded.

But Mr Brnovich didn’t release that report. Instead, he put out an April 2022 “interim report” declaring that “serious vulnerabilities” had been found in the election system, ignoring edits made by his own staff that debunked such assertions.

The Post also reported that the ex-Arizona top prosecutor’s office compiled what they described as an “election review summary” in September of last year, which “systematically refuted accusations of widespread fraud and made clear that none of the complaining parties — from state lawmakers to self-styled “election integrity” groups — had presented any evidence to support their claims”.

Yet Mr Brnovich, who failed to win the GOP senate nomination and left office at the end of last month, kept that summary buried as well. It was only made public this week by his successor, Attorney General Kris Bayes.