No Red Wave

Yeah, let's see, you have now multiple times accused me if being in denial or willfully blind, nasty, and a paid poster. And you have the lack of introspective or raw gall of calling me out for being nasty for pointing out that you refused to provide a factual basis for your claims when asked to do so, while still insulting me without doing so. Take a look in the mirror.

But yes, discussions should be about the quality of factual evidence to back points that you make. At least fact-based ones. Your refusal suggests that you aren't really interested in fact-based discussions but opinion-based ones, and only those in which everybody just accepts your opinion without question.

I will continue to push for fact-based discussions that utilize facts rather than purely opinions and point out where claims lack factual evidence.

 

This is such a "WOKE" post. It's amazing how you can figure out my abject reading comprehension in one sentence. Feel free to not read any of my posts and just keep yourself in the safety of your own distorted opinions.

 

You start every nasty exchange. Reread some of your posts and you will see what I mean. I am not the one that called you a paid poster. All I said is now I see why someone else called you that because you do everything he said you do. Did I call you a moron for saying that the Dems won the house. No, I just pointed out your mistake. That's how you treat people with respect. I wonder what you would have said if the situation was reversed.

As I said in a previous post I hate nasty exchanges and am always looking for respectful exchanges of ideas. That doesn't mean I will not be nasty right back to someone who is nasty to me. If you want to start fresh and have a respectful conversation I am always open to that but I will not sit back and be disrespected by the likes of you.

 

Travelin’ - it is pretty ridiculous to throw the number of insults that you do here and then claim someone else is being really, really nasty for saying you didn’t provide facts.
Lets everyone try to raise the level up a bit, please.

 

Yeah, you didn't invent the charge, just supported it.

I actually didn't say that. I said "they" in reference to Republicans, who had been the subject of my prior 2 sentences. You misinterpreted, which I didn't call you any names for doing. In fact, I politely clarified when you misunderstood.

It was reversed, so no need to wonder.

You insulted people and when I asked you to back up your insults towards people, you started firing insults at me for pointing out that you insulted people (both on here and in MV) without a factual basis.

 

I am not surprised to learn you are amazed that I was able to discern your reading comprehension skill by reading just one sentence of your reply.

I’m woke like that and I enjoy responding to posts that are disconnected from reality (I’m nasty like that).

 

If you check I am never the first one to throw out an insult. I am always respectful until someone comes at me first. Once someone talks nasty or insults me than yes you are right I throw the kitchen sink at them. As far as your last sentence is concerned I am happy to keep the posts tasteful in fact I prefer it.

 

Glad you can see that in yourself!!

 

I only insult people that insult me first. If you never insult me I will never insult you. Should we try that from here on out.

 

Not factual to your way of thinking. I saw what I saw and made my opinion accordingly. I didn't say one thing to insult the people of MV in fact I have family that live there. My opinions were developed by what I saw and what I was told by people that had first hand knowledge of the situation. I don't need a leftist article to tell me what I saw with my own two eyes. Do you????

 

Disagree that you are following that rule. For example, here is your response to Va, who wasn't even addressing you:

In this, you stated he wasn't honest, that he wasn't looking hard enough for information (suggesting that he wasn't educated on the issue), and suggested that he, and unnamed others, were self-congratulatory. And, again, he wasn't even addressing you.

Yes, opinion, not fact.

Yes, in fact you did. From the earlier post, you described the people from MV sarcastically as "the welcoming people of Martha's Vineyard." That description only makes sense as a sarcastic insult to the people of MV (suggesting that they aren't welcoming people and, more indirectly, that they aren't honest) within the flow of that post.

I think it is best to draw from a variety of verifiable stories and then look at how those sources rate in terms of factual reporting and bias based on independent rating organizations, especially those who appear to utilize data to do so. I think if the goal is to have a fact based discussion, you start an argument with the facts (including links to evidence to back factual claims) and then build the opinions from there, rather than vice versa.

 

And I can see that you have been watching/reading a lot of left-wing media. You will vote Democrat no matter what in 2024. I suspect all the investigations into Trump really appealed to you. They were certainly tailor-made for you. I know what the Dems are going to say now that they have lost the house. "The American People Want Us To Unify and Work Together, They Have No Stomach For More Investigations". If only the Dems felt that way for the last 4 years we could have moved forward as a country. Fact is you and I are not that dissimilar we just have strong convictions for our way of thinking and don't agree with each other politically. That's fine an open respectful dialog is a good thing. Cancel culture is a bad thing, I would hope you agree with that.

 

MD. you and I don't well on these forums. What starts out as respectful banter always turns into insults. I really have had enough posting back and forth with you. Why don't you stop responding to me directly and I will stop replying to you directly. We don't have to block each other but we don't need to go back and forth with each other either.

 

A respectful observation.

Why is it incumbent on us not to reply to your posts? If you don’t like the replies you are getting maybe you could work on improving your posts. Less snowflkery and more facts please. Alternatively you could just not read the replies you get.

Just saying….

 

He wants you to go back and forth with him so he can make you feel bad about your beliefs. His beliefs are the only beliefs that are valid. He wants to shame you for having your own.

 

The Biden Administration's transporting unaccompanied minor children to a facility in Florida is not equivalent to what DeSantis had done and you would it know if you bothered to do a little research instead of believing what you read on right-wing websites or hear from right-wing commentators.

The difference between DeSantis’s migrant flights and the Biden administration’s

As far as fentanyl is concerned, most illegal drugs are smuggled into this country in legal cargoes, they're not smuggled into the country by immigrants entering the country illegally at the Southern border and most immigrants who are victims of human trafficking usually enter the country legally under temporary work permits after which they're forced into prostitution or to work under dangerous and illegal conditions.

 

I never told you not to reply to my posts. MD and I seem to always turn our conversation into a nasty exchange. I just feel it would be better if we just don't keep that up.
That was so respectful especially the snowflake comment. Thank you for that.

 

You can take any actions you wish to take. But I see nothing that I did that warrants the restriction of my behavior. I will continue to call for more evidence-based/factual posting. If that offends you, then you can try to explain why with your words. Or not. That is ultimately up to you. Have a nice day.

 

I’m not seeing any nastiness coming from anyone replying to you. Maybe it’s just you?

 

Why do you leftists always start by saying "you are wrong and if you bothered to do research you would know that" and then send me an article from one of the most left wing papers in the country. Doing your research by only using left wing articles will never open up your eyes to the truth. Please stop sending me articles from lefty wing media. They are usually wrong and they only empower you to maintain a false narrative.

Biden was sending plane loads of people all over the country to states without warning and in the dead of night. He was also sending them to non Asylum States but you know that, you just want to find a way to justify it. I watched the people coming off the planes and most of them were adults. If the compassionate Biden was really sending just unaccompanied children to these places why didn't he at least have a conversation with the Governors of those states so they could make proper arrangements to take care of them. Conversely, DeSantis sent a bus load of immigrants (that wanted to go) to an Asylum state and the left went crazy. I am sorry but what does it mean to be an Asylum state if you move people out within a day of arriving.

If you don't think illegal Fentanyl is coming through our open borders in record amounts than it's hard to have a serious conversation with you about that. The fact that you think most people are coming over the border legally proves to me we can never have a truthful conversation about our border issues. You sort of sound like Mayorkas lying to congress and saying the border is secured. Can't wait for that guy to get impeached.